Spring Creek Lodge

[Anonymous]

On 2006-01-06 17:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-01-06 17:44:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2006-01-06 17:43:00, Anonymous wrote:



"This is why I have never posted.  I hate confrontation.  These were my children and kids that he grew up with.  They were repeating what they had heard.  I was just trying to make it right.  They had no business posting anything.  "

Go get some sex lady."

This kind of crap is why I never posted!!"

"I hate confrontation"

That is why you are being trolled, you put a target on your back. Everyone here goes through it, try to ignore it, because beyond that there is a lot of good information here.

[Antigen]

On 2006-01-06 17:47:00, Anonymous wrote:

I really have never posted before. But I have been reading daily. Like I said I hate confrontation and that seems to go on here a lot.

Well, it goes on a whole lot in these programs, too. Only w/ full body contact and no escape. Sometimes, for whatever reasons, ppl actually go out of their way to be offensive just so that ppl like you won't talk to anybody else who posts here. Don't fall for it, that's all.

Faith, as well intentioned as it may be, must be built on facts, not fiction- faith in fiction is a damnable false hope.
--Thomas Edison, American inventor

[Anonymous]

Anyone know the parents address? I think us Spring Creek Alumni should write sharing our experience, or maybe we can just e-mail the to shelee and she can send them to the parents....

It's strange, even many ed cons won't send kids to SCL, WWASPS has such a bad wrap...so sad  :sad:

[WWFSMD]

On 2006-01-06 17:59:00, Anonymous wrote:

I relay all this to Jacki as she cant bear to read here"

If she can't bear to hear about it, think what it must be like for Alex to have to live it.  What does she say when you tell her about this?

A multitude of laws in a country is like a great number of physicians, a sign of weakness and malady.


--Voltaire, philosopher (1694-1778)

[Anonymous]

On 2006-01-06 18:08:00, Antigen wrote:

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On 2006-01-06 17:44:00, Anonymous wrote:


Never even knew they existed.  These stories here are awful."

Then where do you get a room full of kids who so eagerly and gleefully trash this kid of yours? And why do you let the little shits in your house? I tell ya, there's no quicker way to get a personal and entheusiastic invitation to the door than to talk smack like that on any of my family under my roof.

It (the Bible) is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist

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Alex is not my child.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-01-03 03:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Some might consider looniness worshiping the devil. Or having your class picture taken at a cemetery. or the Goth clothes, only a crazy person would think they look good with that fat belly hanging out. "

Some might consider looniness believing in  the devil.

[Anonymous]

As I said earlier these kids grew up with Alex.  We have been friends with the faimily for about 25 years.  They were trashing Ashley not Alex. That was wrong and that is not what this site is about.  They read what Ashley's mom said about Jacki (alex's mom) and were trying to defend her.  They are just teenagers.  Two of them are mine.  They wont be posting anything ever!!

[Anonymous]

On 2006-01-03 11:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Goth doesn't bother me. she dose need to cover herself up a little she doesn't have the body for it. When she was at a friends house she turned a picture of Jesus upside down and put a knife on it. She is strange hopefully she will grow out of it. I feel her parents should try to guide her more. But they are a little strange also. I do know this girl. We go to the same school. I hope for Alex's sack she is with someone else when he gets out. Did you see the Vampirefreaks.com web site When_You_Scream the pictures of the wise men one has his head cut off they all have blood dripping down them. Sorry I find that WRONG. I am aloud my opinion just they same as you and her."

Hoenstly, next we're going to be returning to the days of Salem Witch trials.  Has our collective IQ (older generations) been sucked dry by American Religios/political free-fear-dom.  

I recall I used to wear Metallica shirts and listen to heavy metal, my mom swore I worshipped the devil..I didn't beleive in the devil,.. b/c, well, thought that nonsense illogical and stupid but I fed into b/c it keep the older, more foolish 'frightened' folks at bay...Shlee sounds very much like me- just trying to live as a teen, who does fit the cookie cutter socially imposed mold many folks from mid-america push as 'the only way' to be.  

What on earth happened to embracing difference?  Since when is homogenity a good thing?  So...boring and intolerant.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-01-06 18:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-01-06 17:49:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2006-01-06 17:44:00, Anonymous wrote:



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On 2006-01-06 17:43:00, Anonymous wrote:




"This is why I have never posted.  I hate confrontation.  These were my children and kids that he grew up with.  They were repeating what they had heard.  I was just trying to make it right.  They had no business posting anything.  "

Go get some sex lady."

This kind of crap is why I never posted!!"

"I hate confrontation"



That is why you are being trolled, you put a target on your back. Everyone here goes through it, try to ignore it, because beyond that there is a lot of good information here."

Thank you.  This information on this site has been relayed to his parents by me.

[WWFSMD]

On 2006-01-06 18:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

Thank you.  This information on this site has been relayed to his parents by me.  "

What do you think about what you've read?  How does Alex's mom feel about all of it?

Never in the history of any nation has an education system been so on the point of disintegration and decay as the education system in this country...We know that education in this country is as bad as it can be.  We know that it is old-fashioned, irrelevant, and not meaningful.
--U.S. Senator Abraham A. Ribicoff, 1970

[Anonymous]

On 2006-01-03 16:52:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I'm not saying it was right to send Alex away to this place, but pretty much everyone at school understands why his parents did it.  "

If Alex needs help it's not going to happen through SCL, they need to focus on community care.  RTC's don't work, abusive or not.

http://www.bazelon.org/issues/children/ ... s/rtcs.htm
http://bazelon.org/newsroom/2005/10-18-05briefing.htm

[Anonymous]

On 2006-01-06 18:50:00, WWFSMD wrote:

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On 2006-01-06 18:48:00, Anonymous wrote:


Thank you.  This information on this site has been relayed to his parents by me.  "

What do you think about what you've read?  How does Alex's mom feel about all of it?

Never in the history of any nation has an education system been so on the point of disintegration and decay as the education system in this country...We know that education in this country is as bad as it can be.  We know that it is old-fashioned, irrelevant, and not meaningful.
--U.S. Senator Abraham A. Ribicoff, 1970

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What everyone that went to one of those schools went through should not happen to anyone. I have three children and would not send them there.  But I also havent had the need to so I'm the last one to say anything.  I know what his parents went through.  They were very scared for him and emotions were running high.  The whole family was trashed.  Life was pretty unbearable in that house.  They wanted him contained so he couldnt hurt himself anymore.  I know now that these schools prey on that. He is safe where he is but very pissed off.  Justifiably so.  I cant speak for them as that would be wrong on my part.  They do know that they will have a rough time when he comes home.  The anger alone will probably be between them forever.

[WWFSMD]

On 2006-01-06 20:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

 He is safe where he is but very pissed off.

Don't be so sure about that.  WWASPS and specifically Spring Creek is one of the worst offenders.  He is anything but safe.

 The anger alone will probably be between them forever."

Not just anger but flat out rage - betrayal, no sense of trust - not just in his parents, but anyone - fear, confusion, hopelessness if his parents stick to that damn exit plan.  They're, and more importantly he is, in for a whole host of shit that they can't even fathom right now.  

I hope you printed out that picture of the Hobbitt and showed it to her.  That right there would be enough to send any parent beatin' feet to get that kid.  Think about it, if he's that pissed of, justifiably so, and expresses that anger he's going to end up in that little box.  It's pretty cold in Montana this time of year, don't you think?  You've read Exit Plan's story (hopefully).  You've read Desperate Measure (hopefully).  Do whatever you can to talk some sense into those parents and get that kid out of there!!

If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be -- a Christian.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist

[Antigen]

On 2006-01-06 20:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

He is safe where he is but very pissed off.

Where in the world do you get that idea???

Question with boldness even the existance of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.
--Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat

[69]

He is safe where he is but very pissed off.

Nope. Only difference is the parents are now ignorant, that's what they pay for it seems. They can hope he's safe, imagine he's safe -- but they don't know, nobody does.

The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.


--William Osler