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« Reply #300 on: January 04, 2006, 09:42:00 PM »
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"Whooops...I guess the library closed."


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« Reply #301 on: January 04, 2006, 09:54:00 PM »
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"Trust me, they're on here reading all of this.  They're usually the ones making snide and crude comments about the girlfriend and her family.  They just don't care, it would mean, that by pulling Alex out, they would have to admit to making a mistake.  And being right is worth more to them than actually seeing that their son gets the correct kind of help."


I'm just wondering why they don't get the court's attention for forcing this kid to violate the law by being out of jurisdiction.  They are legally responsible for this kid.  If he were to bust a ball thru someone's window, the parents would be liable.   Why aren't the parents liable for his absence to answer for the charges? :???:

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« Reply #302 on: January 04, 2006, 09:59:00 PM »
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"Trust me, they're on here reading all of this.  They're usually the ones making snide and crude comments about the girlfriend and her family.  They just don't care, it would mean, that by pulling Alex out, they would have to admit to making a mistake.  And being right is worth more to them than actually seeing that their son gets the correct kind of help."




I'm just wondering why they don't get the court's attention for forcing this kid to violate the law by being out of jurisdiction.  They are legally responsible for this kid.  If he were to bust a ball thru someone's window, the parents would be liable.   Why aren't the parents liable for his absence to answer for the charges? :???:

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We all have tried and alas, by having their lawyer show up to the court date to reschedule, Alex is not missing a date and is not in trouble for it.  The question is, how long can they keep him from the court system?
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« Reply #303 on: January 04, 2006, 10:03:00 PM »
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"oh and cocaine on a daily basis.  "


how does he afford all these drugs?
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« Reply #304 on: January 04, 2006, 10:14:00 PM »
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"oh and cocaine on a daily basis.  "




how does he afford all these drugs? "
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« Reply #305 on: January 04, 2006, 10:14:00 PM »
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We all have tried and alas, by having their lawyer show up to the court date to reschedule, Alex is not missing a date and is not in trouble for it.  The question is, how long can they keep him from the court system?"


You start with "We" and go to "Their".  Who is "their" Lawyer?  This doesn't sound like the prosecutor.

If you are the parent of a minor, and you have taken steps to impede a hearing, then yes - YOU are responsible.  That kid can't sign for his own library card without you being held financially accountable for his overdue books.

It also follows that, if the lawyer has information on the whereabouts of someone due to appear, it is the lawyer's responsibility to communicate to the party that they must appear - not make vague excuses as to why the party is absent.  Is the court even aware that this kid is out of the state?

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« Reply #306 on: January 04, 2006, 10:24:00 PM »
No, Helena. That was not the parent. That was someone else answering to
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I'm just wondering why they don't get the court's attention for forcing this kid to violate the law by being out of jurisdiction. They are legally responsible for this kid. If he were to bust a ball thru someone's window, the parents would be liable. Why aren't the parents liable for his absence to answer for the charges?


Sounds like the court knows, but the court is alright with it just so long as he's in "treatment" and not out giving friends lifts around town.

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« Reply #307 on: January 04, 2006, 10:43:00 PM »
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you moron this is the public library


What, a private library? Cause every public one I know of goes after the form lib.mi.us. Maybe you're just used to lying to a different class of people.

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« Reply #309 on: January 04, 2006, 10:57:00 PM »
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Sounds like the court knows, but the court is alright with it just so long as he's in "treatment" and not out giving friends lifts around town.


That was the impression I got: any treatment is "good treatment".  So the parents can send kids off to the equivalent of the Heaven's Gate cult, and tell the court he's in "treatment", and it's all good.  No questions asked.  No one questions this?

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« Reply #310 on: January 04, 2006, 10:59:00 PM »
Well, the parents sure aren't, the courts sure aren't but thank FSM someone's questioning it.  They're not being heard yet, but at least the girlfriend and her mom are questioning it and bringing attention to it.

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« Reply #311 on: January 04, 2006, 11:59:00 PM »
It seems courts and case workers are usually thrilled to have a kid off of their caseload.  They're often overloaded and will not make more work for themselves by investigating the program kids are sent to.  They are usually very happy to hear the child is in a "residential treatment center" or "therapeutic boarding school" as that's one less kid receiving services on the state's dollar.

I had a pending court case while at Cross Creek.  It was basically handled without me, nobody asked my opinions, and the court was fine with my placement in a program.
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« Reply #312 on: January 05, 2006, 07:01:00 AM »
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Interesting, is this person still selling drugs?"

I havent seen him around lately.  i dont buy drugs so im not sure whats up with him"




Odds are strong that Alex' parents have probably tried to recruit the parents of every kid he knows. Do you know the kid's parents? Think they'd fall for it?



Doesn't matter if he's actually a drug dealer or not. All it takes is the parents belief that he is, backed by substantial sums of money. Ask anybody I went to school with and they'll tell you they know for a fact I was a heroin junkie. Fact is I've never seen the stuff. Doesn't matter, though. Mom got it into her head somehow, sent me off to rehab. Therefore, in most ppl's minds, it MUST have been true.

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Alex has admitted to doing a lot of different drugs.
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« Reply #313 on: January 05, 2006, 07:04:00 AM »
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Interesting, is this person still selling drugs?"

I havent seen him around lately.  i dont buy drugs so im not sure whats up with him"




Odds are strong that Alex' parents have probably tried to recruit the parents of every kid he knows. Do you know the kid's parents? Think they'd fall for it?



Doesn't matter if he's actually a drug dealer or not. All it takes is the parents belief that he is, backed by substantial sums of money. Ask anybody I went to school with and they'll tell you they know for a fact I was a heroin junkie. Fact is I've never seen the stuff. Doesn't matter, though. Mom got it into her head somehow, sent me off to rehab. Therefore, in most ppl's minds, it MUST have been true.

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Alex's Parents haven't talked to his friends parents. They are handling there kid not anyone else's kids. Something a few people on this site should try.
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« Reply #314 on: January 05, 2006, 07:11:00 AM »
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Alex's Parents haven't talked to his friends parents. They are handling there kid not anyone else's kids. Something a few people on this site should try."


They're sure talking about Ashley's mom.   They seem to have some strange fascination with telling Ashley's mother how to raise her kid.  Are they calling for the heads of the other kids that were in the car or is this just an Ashley thing?

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