Curious

[Anonymous]

I wonder if Virginia would work the same way, that is, could they prosecute for kidnapping with or without the victim?

With or without the consent of the victim, you mean, right?

[Anonymous]

Good point, you're clearly up on the legal vocabulary. Kidnapping in VA is a class 5 felony. No statutes there.

[Anonymous]

I was looking through the Ohio Code - kidnapping is a first degree felony. I can't make heads or tails of the sentencing guidelines nor did I find statutes. Anyone else want to make a go of it?

http://http://onlinedocs.andersonpublishing.com/oh/lpExt.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&cp=PORC

[Anonymous]

Did any Straight employee ever get charged with criminal kidnapping?

[Nonconformistlaw]

On 2005-11-30 23:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I was looking through the Ohio Code - kidnapping is a first degree felony. I can't make heads or tails of the sentencing guidelines nor did I find statutes. Anyone else want to make a go of it?

http://http://onlinedocs.andersonpublishing.com/oh/lpExt.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&cp=PORC"

When I recently contacted the police dept with jurisdiction over my case...I was told the statute of limitations on kidnapping in Ohio was 7 years. I was also told the same thing, that it is a first degree felony.

[Anonymous]

Looks like kidnapping is a class A felony under federal law, 10 years to life.

http://http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18/parts/ii/chapters/227/subchapters/a/sections/section_3559.html

The statutes there are five years. There are some special provisions relating to kidnapping of minors, for example, " (g) Special Rule for Certain Offenses Involving Children. -
        (1) To whom applicable. - If -
          (A) the victim of an offense under this section has not
        attained the age of eighteen years; and
          (B) the offender -
            (i) has attained such age; and
            (ii) is not -
              (I) a parent;
              (II) a grandparent;
              (III) a brother;
              (IV) a sister;
              (V) an aunt;
              (VI) an uncle; or
              (VII) an individual having legal custody of the victim;
      the sentence under this section for such offense shall be subject
      to paragraph (2) of this subsection.
        (2) Guidelines. - The United States Sentencing Commission is
      directed to amend the existing guidelines for the offense of
      ''kidnapping, abduction, or unlawful restraint,'' by including
      the following additional specific offense characteristics: If the
      victim was intentionally maltreated (i.e., denied either food or
      medical care) to a life-threatening degree, increase by 4 levels;
      if the victim was sexually exploited (i.e., abused, used
      involuntarily for pornographic purposes) increase by 3 levels; if
      the victim was placed in the care or custody of another person
      who does not have a legal right to such care or custody of the
      child either in exchange for money or other consideration,
      increase by 3 levels; if the defendant allowed the child to be
      subjected to any of the conduct specified in this section by
      another person, then increase by 2 levels."

http://http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18/parts/i/chapters/55/sections/section_1201.html

Interesting stuff. Think about the suicides and the medical neglect.

Let's get Randall Hinton behind bars. Any news on this?

Also, how about all those professional child kidnappers. Now, the parents might have agreed to it, however, there's guidelines for interstate transport, right? How about if the program abuses the child. Just thinking. Child abuse.

Where's the FBI at with all this institutionalized child abuse? Anyone know?

[Anonymous]

Okay, let me see if I have this right. There were several (many? a few?) instances of people being held against their will after age 18, and, so far, I haven't seen that anyone was ever charged with criminal kidnapping. Did I miss a case? I think there were some civil kidnapping charges, payoffs, settlements, that sort of thing.

Is anyone else thinking what I am thinking?

[Anonymous]

Is this a riddle?

[Anonymous]

is this a joke?

[Anonymous]

Although prosecutors closed the clinics, six-figure settlements sucked it dry, and state health officials yanked its licenses after media reports of teen torture and cover-up, Sembler himself escaped punishment. As one of the preeminent and hardest-working GOP fundraisers, Sembler has received the honor of living during the George W. Bush presidency at the Villa Taverna, the official residence for the U.S. ambassador, which has the largest private garden in Rome. One night in May at "The Magic Kingdom" (as Mel and Betty call it), the dining room filled with smoke from fine cigars, as the ambassador entertained Bush Sr. and an entourage -- until Betty complained that the old friends were stinking up "my house," the Washington Post reported.

 :wave:

[Anonymous]

hmmn. what if...

[Anonymous]

He's come home, but still wafting across national drug policy is the influence of his STRAIGHT, which has legally changed its identity to the Drug Free America Foundation (director Calvina Fay denies it's the same organization but the name change is listed in Florida corporate filings). Subsidized by tax dollars, it lobbies for severe narcotics policies and workplace drug testing, with an advisory board that includes the like of Gov. Jeb Bush and his wife Columba, and Homeland Security Director of Public Safety Christy McCampbell. A more pressing issue is that former overseers of Sembler's company, true believers in the STRAIGHT model, are still running spin-off businesses that treat teens with the old methods.     :wstupid:

 :wave:

[Anonymous]

Just outta curiousity, I'd like to send my little super-sleuths on a mission. Find me a couple of things. Find me all the Straight cases that overcame the statute of limitations. Then find me cases - these don't have to be Straight cases - wherein a crime went unprosecuted until citizens put the heat on the police/justice system.

Points for speed, accuracy, and completeness of task; points are cumulative, so post what you find when you find it. All answers will be verified via respected sources.

[Anonymous]

Dont try that Hypocritical Conservative Republican Tactic of CHANGING THE SUBJECT. Go find that information yourself.  :grin:

[Anonymous]

On 2005-12-03 16:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Dont try that Hypocritical Conservative Republican Tactic of CHANGING THE SUBJECT. Go find that information yourself.  :grin: "

25 points for impersonating Reagan Youth.