Suzanne Gray - Mindless Troll and HLA Groupie

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-25 14:00:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What secrets? Are these supposed secrets something you are aware of already? Or are you just taking a guess?"

Oh no not at all. Remember I was an inmate there for quite some time. I did suffer at the hands of it, and I do have quite the collection of not just my own but many other peoples horror stories to share.

[SHH Anon Classics]

They were mentioning calling someone a child abuser when there is no proof. Are you saying you were personally abused by Mr. Gray? This thread was discussing calling him a child abuser, not the school in general. If you were not personally abused by Mr. Gray then you cannot call him an abuser.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-26 06:38:00, Anonymous wrote:

"They were mentioning calling someone a child abuser when there is no proof. Are you saying you were personally abused by Mr. Gray? This thread was discussing calling him a child abuser, not the school in general. If you were not personally abused by Mr. Gray then you cannot call him an abuser. "

As I have said many times before. I can back up every single one of my claims against HLA. Every single one. This is of course in general terms.

However if youd like to post the link to individual claims I have made, Id be happy to address them one at a time.

[SHH Anon Classics]

You say you have claims against Hidden Lake. How is Mr. Gray a child abuser? Did he abuse you in some way? I think the point being made is that if he did not abuse you personally than you cannot call him a child abuser. Just because he is employed at a school that you feel is abusive does not make someone an abuser. That is the same as accusing a receptionist at a doctors office of malpractice for something the doctor did during a surgery. You cannot specifically call every employee at the school a child abuser. You would have to accuse only those individuals that abused you for it not to be libel or slander.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-27 05:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You say you have claims against Hidden Lake. How is Mr. Gray a child abuser? Did he abuse you in some way? I think the point being made is that if he did not abuse you personally than you cannot call him a child abuser. Just because he is employed at a school that you feel is abusive does not make someone an abuser. That is the same as accusing a receptionist at a doctors office of malpractice for something the doctor did during a surgery. You cannot specifically call every employee at the school a child abuser. You would have to accuse only those individuals that abused you for it not to be libel or slander."

Like I said post the link to where the comment was made and Ill address it, otherwise shut up about it and stop being such a whiney little cry baby. I stand by every comment Ive made and can back up every comment ive made. If you arent going to provide the link than that should be enough for you.

[SHH Anon Classics]

"As to your comments, Fat Bill was instrumental in a systematic and organized form of child abuse, he is a child abuser. Is that clear enough for you? I know for a fact that ol Fat Ass was directly respondsible for substandard living conditions (and only reemdied the situation when to many parents saw how bad things were) as well as numerous health violations, and a great deal of a lack of saftey for the inmates at HLA."

Here is one of our comments referring to Mr. Gray as a child abuser. And as far as your comments here, these are your opinions only, you have no idea if he is directly responsible for these items or even if these things exist. Hence, you still cannot call him a child abuser from these things mentioned. You can still be sued.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-27 08:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

""As to your comments, Fat Bill was instrumental in a systematic and organized form of child abuse, he is a child abuser. Is that clear enough for you? I know for a fact that ol Fat Ass was directly respondsible for substandard living conditions (and only reemdied the situation when to many parents saw how bad things were) as well as numerous health violations, and a great deal of a lack of saftey for the inmates at HLA."



Here is one of our comments referring to Mr. Gray as a child abuser. And as far as your comments here, these are your opinions only, you have no idea if he is directly responsible for these items or even if these things exist. Hence, you still cannot call him a child abuser from these things mentioned. You can still be sued."

As I said before I can back up each and every one of my claims, and they are all based on fact. I have the proof nessecary to do so if need be.

Let me ask you though, how do you know who it is I am referring to?

Can you prove who Im talking about?

Lemme know cupcake and then tell me how youre going to sue me without knowing who I am or who Im talking about?

[SHH Anon Classics]

You said Mr. Gray is a child abuser. Well, tell me, what did he do to you personally? You said you have proof. Do you mean you have proof he personally did something to you? And if so, what is your proof? If you do not have proof, other than your opinion or statement, then yes, he can still sue you. He may already know who you are, or then again, maybe not. You never know.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-27 16:20:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You said Mr. Gray is a child abuser. Well, tell me, what did he do to you personally? You said you have proof. Do you mean you have proof he personally did something to you? And if so, what is your proof? If you do not have proof, other than your opinion or statement, then yes, he can still sue you. He may already know who you are, or then again, maybe not. You never know."

Oh but I do, I have a little birdie that keeps me up to date on current events in house. Please post the quote in which I named that person you refer to. Oh and again since you apparently werent listening the first eight times I mentioned it. I can back up every single one of my claims, with proof.

Is that point sinking in yet?

[SHH Anon Classics]

You are avoiding the question. You called Mr. Gray a child abuser. Is he or is he not a child abuser? Answer the question.

[Anonymous]

Robert is never going to give any proof to his claims. If he had any why doesn't he post it. All he makes is unfounded claims. He has nothing but an axe to grind, with no proof.
He claims the he was abused, that there were health violations, and all sorts of other stuff, but offers no proof. I say let him post the proof, where are the court documents, the comlaints. He has yet to back up any of his claims. I think he is full of crap. The only abuse that I saw was from the hands of students against other students.

[RobertBruce]

As I have said I can back up each and every one of my claims...with proof. Its not my fault you arent capable of listening.

I'll say it again since you still arent listening.

I CAN BACK UP EVERY CLAIM I HAVE EVER MADE ON HERE.

So any question you have that pops into your little mind where you say, "Hey what about the time you claimed..." Just cut yourself off right there....the answer is I have the proof I need.

I realize youre trying to bait me into revealing information or saying something that can be used against me. Unfortunatly for you, youre far to stupid to be able to pull it off.

Do you really think I would reveal that kind of  information outside of a courtroom on a public forum? I understand youre that dumb but seriously you must have some common sense? Eh doubtfull. Everything Ive revealed to this point has been non specific, part of public record (i.e. the licensure issue) or an issue that we may not bring up later on.

Dont worry though, all information will be revealed when the time comes... Then you can have Marty ask me all the questions you like and I'll answer every single one.

You know whats funny is Im employing the same tactics Susie Bullfrog has used for months. You know not directly answering questions, playing with semantics that sort of thing, and youre getting frustrated. Yet you had no problem when the Bullfrog did the same thing....and did so out of cowardice no less, whereas I have a real reason for doing so.

I find that comical, I thought I'd point it out.

Hey Bullfrog do you think you claiming Devin was a pain in the ass could be considered libel?

Let me know.  :grin:

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-28 04:33:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Robert is never going to give any proof to his claims. If he had any why doesn't he post it. All he makes is unfounded claims. He has nothing but an axe to grind, with no proof.

He claims the he was abused, that there were health violations, and all sorts of other stuff, but offers no proof. I say let him post the proof, where are the court documents, the comlaints. He has yet to back up any of his claims. I think he is full of crap. The only abuse that I saw was from the hands of students against other students."

Just for arguments sake Ive offered more proof on issues than Bullfrog ever did. Recall well the link to the woman at ORS proving that HLA is not listed or licensed as a theraputic boarding school, remember the link to the theraputic boarding school listing cite, showing that HLA does indeed advertise as such. Or how about the information posted from the health department discussing how HLA had recently failed an inspection in the cafeteria. Or the post in which I mentioned Jimsir physically attacking another student as a rebuttal to the claim that any staff member who ever touched a student was fired.

All of this proof I have offered.

Yet here I am still waiting on Mrs. Gray to post pictures about some imaginary sleigh ride she claims we all went on.

Its been months Susie where are they?

Please dont talk to me about offering proof, youll just get embarresed.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-28 03:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You are avoiding the question. You called Mr. Gray a child abuser. Is he or is he not a child abuser? Answer the question. "

Also at what point did I call that person a child abuser?

[Anonymous]

yep still no proof, just baseless claims. as for licsenure, that's the states issue, talk to the legislature, they meet downtown in atlanta, i'm sure they will want to help you