Suzanne Gray - Mindless Troll and HLA Groupie

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-21 04:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Please post the website where Georgia lists Therapeutic Boarding Schools so we can see for ourselves."

The person youd want to speak with is Caroline Winste here's her email address. She works for ORS.

CSWINSTE@dhr.state.ga.us

Im sure if you drop her a line shed be happy to explain the issue to you further since youre apparently not capable of looking up the information yourself, and I of course dont care to do it for you since the only reason you arent doing it is because youre lazy.

[Anonymous]

I am not trying to imply that HIPPA and HLA's ability to bill insurance are related. However, I can see where the topic may have become clouded. I concede that HLA may be able to bill insurance for services rendered (specifically therapy).  However, I do not see how HIPPA laws apply to an entity that is not hospital or clinically based. The only area that I could see HIPPA laws applied would be in the realm of the infirmary (due to it's medical nature). HIPPA laws are specific to health information. FERPA laws apply to school settings (specifically student's under 18).  However, I don't believe these laws apply to HLA because HLA does not receive federal aid to operate. I think it is highly unethical to disclose student information and would assume that HLA has an internal practice that would prevent this from occuring. This practice should apply to all staff, both clinical and non-clinical.

[Anonymous]

In answer to your other question about HLA's Traditional vs. Therapeutic Boarding School status. I think it is related to just that... status. Most folks would probably put more faith (and money) in a traditional school program. Clearly, they are operating what most of us would consider a therapeutic program.

[Anonymous]

1) mrs gray, how does it feel knowing that not even a fat man such as bill gray would be desperate enough to put up with you?
2) why do you defend a school so much that you have no association with that you claim time and time again
3) how does it feel to know you are routinely outsmarted and proven wrong defending this school?
4) how does it also feel to breach an AMA patient confidentiality clause
- "..at no time may any employee of any facility that is in charge of the physical or mental care of a patient divulge any information about reason for admittance, occurences during stay, length of stay, or any information garnered from any file that has to do with patient information. This includes medical records, as well as psychiatric records..."


argue with the american medical association you fucking fat cow


dan pg26

[RobertBruce]

Something else I find interesting.

http://www.theraputicboardingschool.com ... eorgia.jsp

Look who is at the top of the list

I asked the people behind the website how they determine who goes on the list. I was told that they approach the schools in question and thouroughly research them to make sure they are in fact a theraputic boarding school, and make sure the school wants to be listed as such.

Now why would HLA advertise as something they claim to the state they arent?

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-21 05:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

""Oh but you are still in contact with one of their larger employees are you not? You do still go up there from time to time? I mean where will the kids be spending thanksgiving this year? With you at the lillypad, or with fatass at the all you can eat buffet? You cannot prove that youve never discussed HLA related material while on your little visits to get the monthly check, good luck trying though."



Let me just dissect this goofy statement for you so you can understand something.



1) I do have a son with my ex husband who works at the school. However, I do not travel to Dahlonega to drop or pick up my son during visits with his father. I live too far away so we have a meeting place. I havent been to the town of Dahlonega in almost 2 yrs, when I had to move my father's things when he got ill and had to have the leg amputation. I live in a different state now.



2) You said how do you know I dont discuss this board with my ex? Well how do you know I do? Maybe its not that important during the few minutes I see him every 4-6 weeks or so.



3) No my son is not spending thanksgiving in Dahlonega this year.



4) I havent been on the HLA campus since early 2001.



5)Despite your fantasies of some sort of chummy relationship with my ex, we really don't like each other that much, so its not like I sit on the phone with him or anything. We discuss our son, family issues, vacation plans, and christmas presents, etc. Thats about it. He has a life, and I have a life, and they aren't entertwined.



 

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No one cares about your relationship with ol Fatass.

The fact remains that you are in contact with a high level employee of HLA. There is nothing you can do to dispute that fact.

[RobertBruce]

" I think it is highly unethical to disclose student information and would assume that HLA has an internal practice that would prevent this from occuring. This practice should apply to all staff, both clinical and non-clinical. "

My argument exactly. Mrs. Gray broke this "agreement" by posting information concerning a former student at HLA.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-21 11:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"In answer to your other question about HLA's Traditional vs. Therapeutic Boarding School status. I think it is related to just that... status. Most folks would probably put more faith (and money) in a traditional school program. Clearly, they are operating what most of us would consider a therapeutic program.  "

Clearly. As well they tell parents, educational consultants, and advertise as a theraputic boarding school. Yet tell the state they are a traditional boarding school. Is this ethical?

Mrs. Gray?

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-21 12:06:00, Anonymous wrote:

"1) mrs gray, how does it feel knowing that not even a fat man such as bill gray would be desperate enough to put up with you?

2) why do you defend a school so much that you have no association with that you claim time and time again

3) how does it feel to know you are routinely outsmarted and proven wrong defending this school?

4) how does it also feel to breach an AMA patient confidentiality clause

- "..at no time may any employee of any facility that is in charge of the physical or mental care of a patient divulge any information about reason for admittance, occurences during stay, length of stay, or any information garnered from any file that has to do with patient information. This includes medical records, as well as psychiatric records..."





argue with the american medical association you fucking fat cow





dan pg26"

and that will probably be the end of Mrs. Gray for awhile.

[Anonymous]

Regarding the boarding school issue:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=#148885

[SHH Anon Classics]

Robert do you not see for yourself that If I in fact dont know when specifically you were there that there is no way to determine when precisely Devon was there either? I did not post any specific dates. And 3 months was a guess. As far as confidentiality clauses, A, I never signed one, B, The HIPPA laws werent in effect back then, and C, once again for you dense ones, I did NOT garner any information from any file. But you keep on going on and on about that. A first name and an assumed number of months is not personal or confidential information. But feel free to live out your little fantasy if that is what blows your skirt up. And by the way Robert, I posted that thing about my relationship with my ex because you keep on posting that somehow I have access to the school, which in fact, I have NONE. THat is the only reason that I posted that.

[SHH Anon Classics]

Um, Dan, you see I am not going anywhere do you not? I am not afraid or yours nor your buddy Robert's threats. I did nothing wrong, and I am telling the truth. Anyway, here are my responses to your statements;

1)"1) mrs gray, how does it feel knowing that not even a fat man such as bill gray would be desperate enough to put up with you?"

What makes you think it wasnt me that couldnt put up with him?

2) "2) why do you defend a school so much that you have no association with that you claim time and time again"

I defend it because I see lies and half truths and vicious attacks on people who are posting the truth. And things that have been said about my son's father that are slanderous and totally untrue. I defend it because of my son's relationship with his father and for what I know about being associated with the school for 7 years.

3)  "3) how does it feel to know you are routinely outsmarted and proven wrong defending this school?"

I am not "routinely" proven wrong, I have people twisting what I say into whatever they want it to mean. I have stated time and time again what my experiences are and been called a liar for I know to be truth. I dont "FEEL" anything other than sorry for some people on here.

4) "4) how does it also feel to breach an AMA patient confidentiality clause"

I haven't breached anything. Period. I havent posted anything confidential nor have I obtained anything from a file.

5) "..at no time may any employee of any facility that is in charge of the physical or mental care of a patient divulge any information about reason for admittance, occurences during stay, length of stay, or any information garnered from any file that has to do with patient information. This includes medical records, as well as psychiatric records..."


NOtice it says reason for admittance, I dont know that info, notice it says occurances during stay, I dont know that either. Length of stay, I dont know exactly, 3 months was a guess. And since I dont have access to files I didnt get anything "garnered from a file". You are as dense as Robert I see.

[SHH Anon Classics]

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =46#148852

I see absolutely nowhere in this thread that you posted where I said when Devon attended. Nowhere. You know why? Because I dont know precisely.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-21 14:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Robert do you not see for yourself that If I in fact dont know when specifically you were there that there is no way to determine when precisely Devon was there either? I did not post any specific dates. And 3 months was a guess. As far as confidentiality clauses, A, I never signed one, B, The HIPPA laws werent in effect back then, and C, once again for you dense ones, I did NOT garner any information from any file. But you keep on going on and on about that. A first name and an assumed number of months is not personal or confidential information. But feel free to live out your little fantasy if that is what blows your skirt up. And by the way Robert, I posted that thing about my relationship with my ex because you keep on posting that somehow I have access to the school, which in fact, I have NONE. THat is the only reason that I posted that. "

Mrs. Gray why is this so confusing to you?

You posted that Devin had attended the same time I did in the three years you were living on campus. You also claimed he attended the school for three months. You also claimed you knew enough about his personality to know that he and I are similar.

All things with the exception of the last one that are illegal to post. Did you not just see Dans post? Its straight from the AMA. Like he said are you going to argue with them?

Think about it like this, say you were a receptionist at a psychartist office and you knew of a patient who attended sessions there.

If you sometime later no longer worked there yet revealed to someone that a person named John was there and saw the doctor for three months in 1998 you would be breaching confidentiality laws. It does not matter what you signed, you agreed to those clauses simply by working there to begin with. I find it puzzeling that you would even argue a signature is nessecary for an agreement to be in effect. After all we never agreed to anything at HLA yet we were bound to keep certian ones were we not?

You released personal information about someone that you had no right to release. Are you really that stupid that you cant understand that?

A first name is personal.

A length of stay is personal.

A time period is personal.

Why are you confused on that point? Those laws have always been there HIPPA or not.

Also Im still waiting on you to explain how you would have enough information concerning his personality since you never actually knew him.

But again youre far to much a coward to ever answer that question because it reveals the truth about you. The fact that you never knew him to begin with and got the information from a file and an employee.

[SHH Anon Classics]

OK robert lets assume that I only know around the time you were there...and I guessed that maybe you and him were there at same time. I still didnt say WHEN he was there. NO years, NO precise months...the time frame is a 4 year period. ANd I gave out no personal information. I met the kid, he seemed obnoxious to others around him, and when I asked about him a few months later, I was told he was gone. Why can you not see that I gave out no personal information? I have already spoken to an attorney , you have no case Robert. for one, you arent Devon so you claim, so how could you sue me if you arent? second, for a criminal case there has to be evidence, There is none since I didnt get anything from a file. Robert this is getting old you are so blind with hatred for me you dont even see how ridiculous your argument is.