>>>>>>>>>>answer to 1: I dont believe its a question of ethics or morality on whether or not they are a traditional boarding school or a therapeutic boarding school. They are unique in what they offer therefore there is a question as to whether they are more one than the other. I think its a matter for the state to decide which catagory they fall more under as far as jurisdiction and regulations, whatever those may be. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
You arent answering the question. If HLA was truly unique and fell into a sort of combined category why wouldnt they simply be honest with the state about their purpose rather than lie about it?
Again your opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>answer to 2: I know for a fact that students who were harmed were fired when I was there. So why would they keep employees on if they were known to be abusive? my only guess on this is either there is no proof as to the alleged incident, or it was fabricated by the student, or possibly an issue that was dealt with with reprimanding and punishment of staff member and reassignment rather than firing. The school has no reason to keep abusive staff on when there are other people needing jobs in that field. I never said if I didnt see it it never happened, I just know that some incidents were fabricated and some were blown out of proportion. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
I'll assume you meant staff members who harmed students were fired. However since that is not the case what does that do for your theory? I gave you a very specific example of a staff member who attacked a kid and was not fired. I witnessed many other similar incidents.
Am I lying?
Also how do you "know" the incidents were fabricated or exagerated if you yourself did not wittness them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>answer to 3: I dont believe that it was a questioning of purposefully rationing food. I believe it was a convenience issue because restriction kids were kept apart from the rest of student body and therefore had to eat in other quarters and it was a matter of convenience to make different meals for them, that were easily transferrable. THey were also denied the regular dessert items because those would be considered more of a treat on kids on restrictions were there for a reason, punishment<<<<<<<<<<<<
You arent being honest here. If the situation was as you claim it was then students would be given the same amount of food as the non restriction kids. They were not, they were given signifigantly less. Add that to the fact that they are made to do hours of work assignments and PT. So again I ask you is this a resondsible tactic?
>>>>>>>>>answer to 4: Once again, I dont know the insurance regulations for what they pay and dont pay. But if they offer some therapeutic aspects as part of the school I think the insurance should pay for that part. I dont see a problem with it if they agree to pay it. <<<<<<<<<
A reasonable thought. However since the insurance pays for more than just the therapy is it still okay? Also how does this fit in with your thoughts of HLA being listed as a traditional boarding school? Traditional boarding schools do not offer therapy as part of their regular ciriculum.
>>>>>>>>>>>>answer to 5: I never heard or saw a child being abused or otherwise put in negligent danger while I was there. I cant speak for anything now, but while I was there I never heard about any abusive incidents. I know that staff that were not considered in the best interest of the kids were fired but as far as abuse charges I never heard of any nor did I read about any in the paper or heard about any from the numerous staff I knew personally. By the way, I dont consider work as a restriction or having to clean your own dorms abuse. But some kids do. Go figure. Typical for teenagers hahaha
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Dont be a smart allec. I do not believe many students felt cleaning was abusive. However some of the work assignments might fall into that category.
Made to clean dumpsters with our bare hands and not given any cleaning equipment but a tooth brush.
Made to do a task finish only to have the work destroyed by those supervising and then made to do it again.
Forced to do PT until people became sick and even then made to continue.
Denied medical treatment sometimes for weeks on end.
Even with all this though, that really not what I was asking you about.
Im talking about,
Mental/Emotional Abuse
Sexual Abuse
Physical Abuse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>answer to 6: I know what the reals are supposed to consist of but Ive never sat in on one. <<<<<<<<<<<<
Fine, what are they supposed to consist of?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>answer to 7: Dr. B had at least 5 maintenance workers when I lived on Campus. BillSr, Robert, Lonnie, and 2 or 3 others that changed over the years I was there. There was no cutting of costs and they did the overwhelming majority of maintennance. Sometimes kids on restrictions helped them with things but it was assisting only, that was it. My father in law and ex worked long hours and during the weekends alot, so I can hardly say that students did the work. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
You say this but you also claimed I was lying about the fact that students were made to clean the bulk of the campus every saturday morning from top to bottom. Since it appears you are unaware of the majority of day to day life at HLA how can you make this claim?
>>>>>>>>answer to 8: ONce again, there is no "large number" of staff who are gay. A few are, most are not. Whether or not this is the case has no bearing on what they said about homosexuality. They didnt "treat" it like a disease to be rid of, they treated it as an issue to be dealt with, because alot of teen suicides have to do with guilt or confusion over sexuality issues and it needs to be discussed so the kids can deal with it in a manner they can accept what and who they are. That is different from treating alcholism and from what I discussed with staff who I was friends with that was why it was part of the things to be dealt with on a therapeutic level. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Again fine but looking at the post made earlier today some kids were sent there by their parents in the hopes of being cured from gayness. Further many kids were pressured to acknowledge that they were gay even if they were not, or at the very least not ready to acknowledge. Also Ill ask you the same thing I asked Aften. Are you taking into account the entire 12 year history and all employees? Further, how can you comment on any of the staffing situation since 2001?
>>>>>>>>>>>answer to 9:I think that if the information was of a personal nature such as last name, birthdate, ss number, address then yes it shouldnt be done. But I know what youre insinuating here and a first name and guess at a number of months is not personal information and was not obtained in any illegal form or fashion since it came from memory and not any file. I have 2 lawyers opinions on this as well as a paralegal's. So quit getting all excited about a lawsuit, cuz, it ain't happening. <<<<<<<<<<<
If you werent worried about it you wouldnt be talking to all these legal experts. And since you arent being honest about the situation on here it would stand to reason you arent being honest with them. We discussed this earlier, when you have access to information, dont think about it for awhile, and then recite what you had previously learned, thats not called guessing its called remembering.
You listed off his first name, the amount of time he spent there, and the time period in which he was there. All information you knew as an employee of HLA.
Mention that to your legal expert friends and then see what they say.
>>>>>>>>>>answer to 10: When I lived on campus, I was on campus every morning delivering mail from the PO box in town. THat meant entering the admin bldg and Bill's office. Sometimes at lunch I ate in the cafeteria when my mother in law was working. And we ate dinner there about once a week. We also ate there every holiday meal such as easter and thanksgiving, etc. We also were on campus for events such as the sledding, the fireworks, the bonfire, field days, plays, and other big events such as that. I also saw students on a daily basis walking by my house. I saw them in town also when they would have functions there. AS far as closeup contact, it was mainly in the cafeteria and during field days and the bonfire and fireworks times. I also personally knew a few of them that Martha and Bill and my ex befriended who worked with her in the kitchen, etc. <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Okay lets take this apart one piece at a time.
You say you spent time in the admin building.
Fine.
Students generally were not allowed in there unless we had good reason and even then it was discouraged. I myself only went in there two or three times.
Next you talk about eating in the cafeteria regurally (a story you have changed) and being present for many holidays. Again fine, why does no one seem to remember you?
Next the events youre talking about (sledding, fireworks ect) were apparently few and far between if ever really occuring at all. As to students walking by your house, unless I am mistaken as to where your house was located the only students you would have ever seen walking by your house would have been runaways. How many of the runaways went down that road?
Next you discuss events in town which didnt occur that often, followed by kids working in the cafeteria. Kids working in the cafeteria would have either been on restriction in which case you would have been asked not to speak with them, or the two or three who for a period of time would work serving food on rare occasions.
This isnt giving you a whole lot of interaction.
Answer my follow up questions, if you need me to make them more direct let me know.
