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« on: November 13, 2005, 11:49:00 PM »
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Nov 13: Kids Helping Kids

Reported and Web Produced by:
Hagit Limor
Photographed by: Anthony Mirones
Updated: 11/13/05 22:48:36


Clyde Gray on set: Tonight, a rare look behind the walls of a controversial program to help kids kick drugs.

Carol Williams on set: The program is called Kids Helping Kids. It has support in high political offices.

But some call it a cult. What's the truth? The I-Team's Hagit Limor has been investigating.

Hagit Limor on set: Some say it saved their lives. Some say it scarred them for life. A program, or something to de-program?

For all the controversy, Kids Helping Kids let our cameras inside for an unprecedented look, behind the locked doors.


Penny Walker on videotape: "It is a secure facility. Our doors are locked."


Hagit Limor narration: YOU'RE ABOUT TO ENTER A PLACE OF DESPERATION AND HOPE.


WHERE THE TACTICS MAY SEEM BIZARRE


AND AT TIMES ROBOTIC.


BUT WHERE FUTURES, CHANGE.


Penny Walker on videotape: "We are a strong program. I won't deny that."


Hagit Limor narration: FOR THE BETTER?

Brandon Blaquiere on videotape: "I have a chance to get my life back."


Hagit Limor narration: OR WORSE.

Former KHK Graduate on videotape: "I feel like I've been trying to deprogram myself for years."


Hagit Limor on videotape: "Are you brainwashing?" Penny Walker on videotape: (laughs) "No!"


Hagit Limor narration: IN THE EARLY MORNING, A CAR PULLS UP TO THIS NONDESCRIPT BUILDING IN MILFORD.


IT IS NO ORDINARY CAR POOL.


ONE TEEN CLEARLY IS IN CHARGE OF ANOTHER.


HE'S THE OLDCOMER, A VETERAN RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS NEWCOMER, WHO JUST ARRIVED AT KIDS HELPING KIDS.


Martha Logan on videotape: "There was no place else to turn."

Hagit Limor narration: PARENTS SAY IT'S THE DRUG TREATMENT OF LAST RESORT.

Martha Logan on videotape: "He threatened (chokes up) He threatened suicide twice and was in the hospital."

Hagit Limor narration: MARTHA LOGAN DRIVES 240 MILES A DAY TO TRANSPORT HER SON AND HIS NEWCOMERS WHO SPEND NIGHTS IN HER HOME TO A PROGRAM THAT COSTS MORE THAN $20,000, INSURANCE MAY OR MAY NOT COVER.


Current KHK Staffer: "Today what we're going to talk about is previous attempts at sobriety."

Hagit Limor narration: THE KIDS SIT IN RAP SESSIONS MUCH OF THE DAY.

Current KHK client: "I couldn't associate with anybody unless I was high."


Hagit Limor narration: NEWCOMERS, ON FIRST PHASE UP TO SIX MONTHS, CAN'T: GO HOME OR TO SCHOOL, LISTEN TO MUSIC, WATCH TV, OR TALK TO EACH OTHER. IN GROUP? NO ONE TALKS WITHOUT PERMISSION, THEY GET THROUGH CERTAIN HAND GESTURES.


Hagit Limor on videotape: "When you first came in and you saw this, what did you think of it?" Brandon Blaquiere on videotape: "I thought everybody was crazy."

Hagit Limor narration: BRANDON BLAQUIERE'S BEEN HERE EIGHT MONTHS.

Brandon Blaquiere on videotape: "My use had started progressing to the point it was uncontrollable."


Hagit Limor narration: BLAQUIERE IS "WORKING THE PROGRAM." THAT MEANS RAISING YOUR ARM RAMROD STRAIGHT, IN GROUP SESSIONS, SINGING KIDS' SONGS AND ON CUE DOING THIS. THEY CALL IT: MOTIVATING.


YOU HAVE TO PARTICIPATE TO PROGRESS TO PHASE TWO - YOU GET TO GO TO YOUR OWN HOME AT NIGHT. PHASE THREE - YOU GO BACK TO SCHOOL. 5 PHASES IN ALL, TO GRADUATE.


Hagit Limor on videotape: "What about the motivating and the arm holding and the hand gestures has helped you kick drugs?" Brandon Blaquiere on videotape: "When staff sees me raise my hand all day long or staff sees me motivate 'til I'm about to fall out of my chair / It shows that I have willingness. You know these things are so simple that they mean so much."


Ed Norton on videotape: "The hand signals, the waving of your hands in the air, the sitting there all day is insane."

Hagit Limor narration: ED NORTON'S PARENTS PULLED HIM OUT OF THE PROGRAM HE CALLS:

Ed Norton on videotape: "It's a cult. / They tell you it's a long term program. They don't say it's a brainwashing camp."


Former KHK Graduate on videotape: "I didn't know who I was any more. I identified with them so much I lost who I am."

Hagit Limor narration: THIS GRADUATE TOOK 16 MONTHS TO GET THROUGH THE PROGRAM.

Former KHK Graduate on videotape: "I call it brainwashing. I call it cult-like tactics."


Hagit Limor narration: WHY? FIRST, THERE'S "CONTROL" BY OTHER KIDS.

Former KHK Graduate on videotape: "Oldcomers have complete power over you."

Ed Norton on videotape: "They'd throw me to the ground. Usually my head would hit the ground pretty hard and everyone's got to turn their head the other way."


Hagit Limor narration: THERE'S NO "PRIVACY", ANYWHERE, EVER.


THEN THERE'S WHAT WE HEARD IN THIS SMALLER SESSION FOR KIDS IN LATER PHASES:

Current KHK client: "It's really hard / saying I can't talk to you."


Hagit Limor narration: THEY CAN'T TALK TO OUTSIDERS NOT APPROVED BY KHK.

Former KHK Graduate on videotape: "This is why I do classify this place as a cult, because you're not allowed to make any contact with people outside the program. If you do the other oldcomers that are with you at school are supposed to tell on you."

Hagit Limor narration: AND THAT COULD GET YOU STARTED OVER, FROM PHASE ONE.


Diane Norton on videotape: "No one should be abused emotionally or physically in the name of treatment."

Hagit Limor narration: ED NORTON'S PARENTS SAY HE STILL HAS NIGHTMARES ABOUT HIS TIME AT KHK. HE'S SOBER NOW, IN JAIL.


Penny Walker on videotape: "We don't abuse our kids!"

Hagit Limor narration: PENNY WALKER'S RUN KIDS HELPING KIDS FOR 23 YEARS.

Penny Walker on videotape: "We deal with difficult kids and sometimes difficult families and we're not going to please everybody."

Hagit Limor narration: WALKER SAYS THE PROGRAM HAS CHANGED OVER TIME, ELIMINATING SOME OF THE EXTREME RESTRAINTS FORMER CLIENTS DESCRIBED TO THE I-TEAM.

Hagit Limor on videotape: "When kids have power over kids, can that be abused?" Penny Walker on videotape: "It can be. We watch very diligently for that. / What has changed is we don't tolerate violence any more. We used to."


Hagit Limor narration: SO WHY NEED ALL THOSE RULES AND STRANGE BEHAVIORS?

Penny Walker on videotape: "It's part of the discipline and the structure. / Certainly I understand that motivating looks bizarre / It's good exercise. I mean, the kids sitting in there in group for long periods of time, it really gets their blood moving and that kind of thing."


Hagit Limor narration: BOTH THE STATE OF OHIO AND BUTLER COUNTY RECENTLY INVESTIGATED KIDS HELPING KIDS, AND FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF ABUSE OR NEGLECT. THE PROGRAM TOUTS SUPPORT FROM LOCAL SENATORS, REPRESENTATIVES AND BUSINESS LEADERS.


WALKER SAYS THE PROGRAM IS NOT A CULT.

Hagit Limor on videotape: "Are you brainwashing?" / Penny Walker on videotape: "No! I don't think we're brain washing them. / We're not trying to control their minds. We're trying to give THEM control. We're trying to empower kids to make good decisions for themselves."


Hagit Limor narration: THE LONG DAY ENDS AS THE KIDS MOVE TO THEIR HOST HOMES, WHERE THE RULES REMAIN, AS DOES THE CONTROVERSY.


Hagit Limor on videotape: "Without this where would your son be or where would you be?" Martha Logan: "Dead. Either I'd be dead or he'd be dead."


Hagit Limor narration: BUT SOME PARENTS DISAGREE.

Peter Norton on videotape: "I was appalled at the stripping away of all rights."


Hagit Limor narration: WHILE SOME CALL IT THERAPY

Brandon Blaquiere on videotape: "I would not have finished school. I don't think I'd be alive today."


Hagit Limor narration: OTHERS CALL IT OVER THE LINE

Former KHK Graduate on videotape: "I feel like I've been trying to deprogram myself for years."


Hagit Limor on set: The director of Kids Helping Kids also sent us a follow-up email to stress: "Kids Helping Kids is a community, not a cult." She says all those rules provide the structure these kids need to kick drugs.

And I want to point out, we blurred the faces of teens to hide the identities of all but those whom Penny Walker told us we had permission through the kids and their parents.



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Reporter/Producer: Hagit Limor hlimor@wcpo.com
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2005, 12:28:00 PM »
When pressed to explain what the motivating is all about, Penny says

(paraphrased)  "it is , ahh....pause...good exercise. It gets their blood flowing.

Now, This is my take. The dumb bitch has NO IDEA why they do it, only that it "works".

Fucking bitch. Someone needs to lock her up and make her "exercise" in some other "community" to "help her".
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2005, 09:39:00 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2005, 06:02:00 PM »
Quote from above transcript. This says it ALL imo:


Hagit Limor on videotape: "When kids have power over kids, can that be abused?" Penny Walker on videotape: "It can be. We watch very diligently for that. / What has changed is we don't tolerate violence any more. We used to."



They "use" to tolerate ABUSE??? And since when don't they? Did that change the day bfore the taping? Or is it just a policy for the day of the taping? She admitted right there to abusing  children! and weren't they made to stop Motivating children years ago, also?? Yet as we can still see, it continues!
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2005, 11:07:00 PM »
Hagit..........there is so much more to say..........
Lives depend on it..........
Thanks for what was said.......I am gateful that the "motivation" was viewed by the public.
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2005, 12:24:00 AM »
Dear Sirs and Madams:

I have recently viewed the following Channel 9 story regarding Kids Helping Kids.

I am aware that you have an agreement with this organization as later "phases" allow school attendance.

Given the I Team report, may I please inquire for what reason(s) you have aligned yourself with this program? The segment on "motivating" concerns me greatly. As district policy, are you comfortable
with this? Based on this Channel 9 report, students you have from this program are required to do "motivating." How does one teach students whom they know are going through this type of treatment? Do you as a district support this? Do agree that it is just "exercise"?

To view the report:
http://www.wcpo.com/wcpo/localshows/iteam/92a2f60.html

To begin research on the connection between KHK and  Straight: (God Bless Wes)
http://thestraights.com/wes-bio.htm

Thank you for your time.
A very concerned parent
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2005, 04:04:00 PM »
Who are you sendin' that letter to?  I'm assuming it wasn't just for the website here?
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2005, 05:57:00 PM »
I am assuming this is being sent to Milford local schools in Milford, Ohio....where the Kids Helping Kids phaser attend school. Someone correct me if I am wrong.....maybe all survivors should send similar letters to this school and it's superintendant, and it's board members.....maybe also Milford City council.....food for thought.....

Superintendent:
John Frye

Treasurer:
Jenni Logan

Board of Education:

 

 Carol Ball    President
 Martha DeBiasse Vice President
 Don Hartley Member
 Edith Martin Member
 David Yockey Member

CONTACT LIST

Click On Any Name To E-Mail

Milford Board of Education:

Main Office?831-1314
Carol Ball, President
Martha DeBiasse, Vice-President
Edith Martin, Member
David Yockey, Member

Don Hartley, Member

 

John S. Frye, Superintendent
Jenni Logan, Treasurer
John C. Borchers, Business Manager
James Quatman, Assistant Superintendent of Human Resources
Dr. Kathy Frye, Assistant Superintendent of Curriculum & Instruction
Edward Keyes, Technology Coordinator
Bob Penders, Building Services Director
Valerie Miller, Communications Coordinator
Deborah Glynn, Gifted Coordinator

Milford High School:

Dr. Ray Bauer, Principal
Main Office ?831-2990
Attendance ?684-8537
Athletic Office ?576-2208
Athletic Schedules ?576-2253
Clinic ?576-2214
Guidance Office ?576-2203
Principals ?576-2213
Student Fees & Work Permits ?576-2209
 
Board of Education Listings
 
   Name Position Full Email
Ball, Carol President debiasse_m@milfordschools.org
Hartley, Don Board Member martin_e@milfordschools.org
Yockey, Dave Board Member ackerman_d@milfordschools.org
 
Ackermann, Kate M.
 Social Studies
 adams_b@milfordschools.org
 
Adams, Richard (Rick)
 Applied Tech
 alderman_b@milfordschools.org
 
Armstrong, Donna M.
 Spanish
 barkhurst_s@milfordschools.org
 
Barret, Debra L.
 Spanish
 bartholomew_s@milfordschools.org
 
Bates, Angela J.
 Secretary
 bauer_r@milfordschools.org
 
Baugh, Kathy E.
 Applied Tech
 benfield_m@milfordschools.org
 
Benninger, Valerie M.
 Secretary
 berleman_k@milfordschools.org
 
Beverly, Edward R.
 Head Custodian
 blake_l@milfordschools.org
 
Blinkhorn, Tedi M.
 Food Service
 bonnell_p@milfordschools.org
 
Brauer, Albert G.
 Army JROTC
 brown_b@milfordschools.org
 
Brown, Daniel R.
 Custodian
 brunetti_r@milfordschools.org
 
Bullis-Cooper, Kandance L.
 Applied Tech
 bunnell_d@milfordschools.org
 
Burg, Teresa
 Food Service
   
Caldwell, John
 Teacher Aide
 cambron_j@milfordschools.org
 
Carboy, Kathy A.
 Social Studies
 carrington_v@milfordschools.org
 
Chalupa, Mary Lou
 Special Education
 chandler_m@milfordschools.org
 
Christie, Linda
 Work and Family Studies
 conners_d@milfordschools.org
 
Cooper, Kathleen L.
 Guidance Counselor
 corbett_c@milfordschools.org
 
Cox, Carole T.
 Math
 curless_s@milfordschools.org
 
Darland, Julie E.
 Special Education
 davis_c@milfordschools.org
 
DeBlasio, Gina L.
 English
 dennison_s@milfordschools.org
 
Downey, Gabrielle V.
 Social Studies
 dumrese_s@milfordschools.org
 
Dunkelman, Bonnie L.
 Social Studies
 dupriest_j@milfordschools.org
 
DuPriest, Lindsay L.
 English
 edwards_m@milfordschools.org
 
Elson, Claire V.
 Social Studies
 foster_c@milfordschools.org
 
Fouss, Marjory D.
 Special Education
 french_d@milfordschools.org
 
Gadbury, Sarah E.
 Art
 gibson_c@milfordschools.org
 
Gill, Robert E.
 Custodian
   
Goodman, Steve
 English
 graff_s@milfordschools.org
 
Graham, Kara K.
 Math
 groeber_r@milfordschools.org
 
Hamilton, David L.
 Custodian
   
Healey, Amy M.
 Language Arts
 hester_k@milfordschools.org
 
Holland, Ronnie M.
 Custodian
 holstein_l@milfordschools.org
 
Hoover, Jeffrey L.
 Health
 horner_s@milfordschools.org
 
House, Ernie R.
 Coord 9th Grade Comm
 house_n@milfordschools.org
 
Huffman, Heather L.
 Spanish
 hull_k@milfordschools.org
 
Huxell, Donna L.
 Secretary
 jewell_b@milfordschools.org
 
Jones, Kevin B.
 Custodian
 jurewicz_m@milfordschools.org
 
Jusco, Amy M.
 Science
 kilgore_t@milfordschools.org
 
Klein, Karen M.
 Food Service
 klesch_c@milfordschools.org
 
Krivda, George E.
 Custodian
   
Kroell, Eric J.
 Social Studies
 langhoff_k@milfordschools.org
 
Linneman, Noreen F.
 Special Education
 lorenz_a@milfordschools.org
 
Lutz, Mark D.
 Assistant Principal
 madden_j@milfordschools.org
 
Martin, Sharon L.
 Library Aide
 massett_k@milfordschools.org
 
Mazan, Sherri K.
 Teacher Aide
 mcafee_k@milfordschools.org
 
McKenney, Kristi G.
 Phys Educ
 miller_d@milfordschools.org
 
Miller, LeVan C.
 Art
 moorehead_m@milfordschools.org
 
Morra, Gary E.
 Food Service
 morris_l@milfordschools.org
 
Mueller, Charles E.
 Math
 nicolaus_j@milfordschools.org
 
Niemeyer, David J.
 Social Studies
 ohnmeis_h@milfordschools.org
 
Ohren, Anne E.
 SLP
 ostermeier_l@milfordschools.org
 
Ott, June A.
 Language Arts
 owens_g@milfordschools.org
 
Panko, Trena L.
 Special Education
 parker_c@milfordschools.org
 
Parker, Vickie L.
 Secretary
 phillips_d@milfordschools.org
 
Pittenger, Samantha K.
 French
 pregitzer_e@milfordschools.org
 
Priede, Laura L.
 Math
 purdin_b@milfordschools.org
 
Radloff, Jeffrey E.
 Physics
 randall_s@milfordschools.org
 
Rees, Troy J.
 Special Education
 rivard_d@milfordschools.org
 
Roesbery, Robert J.
 French/Latin/Myth
 roessler_l@milfordschools.org
 
Rubenacker, Jamie L.
 Art
 ruddock_b@milfordschools.org
 
Ruff, Holly S.
 Science
 rutter_s@milfordschools.org
 
Scarlatella, Ruthann L.
 Food Service
 schneder_r@milfordschools.org
 
Schrameck, Paul B.
 Band/Instr Music
 schumacher_j@milfordschools.org
 
Seitz, Denice M.
 Teacher Aide
 shaffer_l@milfordschools.org
 
Shepherd, Jeff A.
 Art
 sheppard_r@milfordschools.org
 
Smith, Kathy B.
 Science
 smith_r@milfordschools.org
 
Sparks, Heather M.
 Science
 staten_s@milfordschools.org
 
Stevens, Nancy E.
 Spanish
 stork_c@milfordschools.org
 
Surface, Susan R.
 German
 sutter_d@milfordschools.org
 
Tameris, Gary L.
 Phys Educ
 taylor_c@milfordschools.org
 
Taylor, Polly A.
 Guidance Counselor
 teke_m@milfordschools.org
 
Teski, Katherine A.
 Science
 theuring_j@milfordschools.org
 
Thomas, Brian K.
 Science
 thomas_j@milfordschools.org
 
Tissot, Lisa L.
 Teacher Aide
 tolin_r@milfordschools.org
 
Towner, Jodi A.
 Band/Instr Music
 trout_m@milfordschools.org
 
Trybus, Marissa J.
 Special Education
 turner_l@milfordschools.org
 
Vaughan, Randall G.
 English/German
 vilardo_r@milfordschools.org
 
Vonderhaar, Amy L.
 Math
 voshell_k@milfordschools.org
 
Wakeham, Molly L.
 Guidance Counselor
 walsh_l@milfordschools.org
 
Ward, Jeremy J.
 Science
 white_t@milfordschools.org
 
Wiley, Steve L.
 Custodian
 williams_p@milfordschools.org
 
Williams, Wendi
 Food Serv Manager
 willson_a@milfordschools.org
 
Willson, Earl T.
 Math
 willson_t@milfordschools.org
 
Wittmer, Pamela
 Food Service
   
Wolverton, Linda J.
 English
 woods_b@milfordschools.org
 
Young, Danny
 Custodian
   
Zimmerman, Tracy K.
 English
 zimmerman_t@milfordschools.org
 
 Good Idea? I think so  :smokin:  :wave:
 
 
 


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"Who are you sendin' that letter to?  I'm assuming it wasn't just for the website here?"
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2005, 10:22:00 PM »
I sent it to the Milford School Board and the principal of Milford High School.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2005, 11:06:00 PM »
Send your stories to Milford teachers  now....!
Great idea............

"With passionate hearts, let's take it down"

Parent survivor
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2005, 01:42:00 PM »
Plan ahead

Keep copies of what you send and to whom you send it, keep any replies that you have. If they do their usual blank stare, patronizing brush off routine, take the whole pile of stuff to the media. There's one tv journalist who's definitely interested. If she's unable or unwilling to pick it up again when the timing is right, maybe someone else will.

But don't tolerate silence. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you and then you win."--Ghandi

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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2005, 10:29:00 PM »
Send all the websites to them as well........(Wes', ISAC, etc)

I have received a response from the principal. He has informed me that an assisant principal sits on the KHK board!

The day we pulled out our child from KHK,we let him do all the talking once we were in the car. We did not share with him all that we had learn of second generation Straights etc.while he was in the KHK program (two weeks), or why we chose to withdraw him. On the way home from KHK, he shared with us the condition of the time - out rooms (blood, feces and writing on the wall that said "urine here"), and he shared with us the "motiviation" and the consequences for not having one's arm up.

In addition to reporting my son's abuse as a parent,I am a public servant and am required to report child abuse. These two reasons prompted me to call the Bulter County Childrens' Services.

How does a Milford High School Teacher, board member, administrator not do the same?
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 :question:  :question:  :question:  :question:  :question:

Parent Survivor

"What you do speaks so loudly, I can't hear what you are saying................."
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2005, 11:48:00 PM »
Dear Parent survivor,

I left a message on your voicemail and have been awaiting your return phone call.
Please call me this wednesday evening as monday I am getting an aching tooth pulled.

warmest regards,
-DP

p.s. unfortunately these principals are in the pockets of this evil we know of as Kids Helping Kids.

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"Send all the websites to them as well........(Wes', ISAC, etc)



I have received a response from the principal. He has informed me that an assisant principal sits on the KHK board!



The day we pulled out our child from KHK,we let him do all the talking once we were in the car. We did not share with him all that we had learn of second generation Straights etc.while he was in the KHK program (two weeks), or why we chose to withdraw him. On the way home from KHK, he shared with us the condition of the time - out rooms (blood, feces and writing on the wall that said "urine here"), and he shared with us the "motiviation" and the consequences for not having one's arm up.



In addition to reporting my son's abuse as a parent,I am a public servant and am required to report child abuse. These two reasons prompted me to call the Bulter County Childrens' Services.



How does a Milford High School Teacher, board member, administrator not do the same?

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"What you do speaks so loudly, I can't hear what you are saying................."





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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2005, 11:19:00 AM »
Dear Parent Survivor,
  You rock! And I bet you have been rocked, soundly, by what you've recently learned. I think your experience speaks to the very root of the problem.

You ask "How does a Milford High School Teacher, board member, administrator not do the same?"

Oh, that's easy, they just apply "Honesty, the first and most impotent rule."

Come on, you know the answer? It's not asif this were a new development. It's been going on for years. And it's not been a secret. I'd guess that some of the Milford faculty and administration staff have been around long enough to remember when KHK was Straight and they were making headlines. And what about the more recent investigation that resulted in a theoretical ban on motivating?

They knew, but they didn't see. They're so caught up in the high holy cause of the Drug War that they give about as much creedance to Program victims as any good German did to the "propaganda" about Hitler Jugend during WWII.

But the story is finally starting to break. And I'm proud to say that Americans don't need no outside forces to clean house when it needs to be done. We'll do it ourselves, thanks very much.

Oh, and did I happen to mention, Parent Survivor, how much I admire your clear thinking? You ROCK!

Whatever issues may have led you to believe that your son needed institutional treatment (and I know not a thing about that, I don't even know who you are) I hope you'll carefully reexamine how you've been led to believe it. Not saying there is no problem. Just that, in all liklihood, you and your son w/ the support of family and community, can probably handle it.

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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2005, 01:21:00 AM »
Yeah, that is because it is not an outpatient treatment facility when the kids having to perform "treatment" operations at the "host homes" they are placed at...when the law clearly states that they are to be in their "natural" environment at home. To me and to normal people bringing the program home does not constitute a child existing in their "natural environment".

Shame on you ODADAS....and shame on you republicans in OHIO that are perpetuating this abuse of children!

Shame on you Milford school system!
All about the money huh?

Been working hard to make other people in govt. aware of this corrupt program in Ohio funded and protected solely by a ODADAS...whoopsy I mean republican agenda!

republican agenda = money and power

that is all they seem to be about ...but when these evil corrupt people are finally exposed for what they really are...the American public will not be standing for this type of behavior any longer!

We the people will take Ohio back and keep our children safe and secure in a positve and nurturing way!
thank you very much!
We will not be silenced by fraudulent criminals with a power and money agenda!
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