Prince Charles and Camilla tour The Seed School

[Anonymous]

WTF>>>>>if you can get over& make yourself into something marketable by all means DO SO. After all its the american way......

[Antigen]

Get over? You mean like stealing or cheating your way into enjoying some of the benefit of your own productivity?

Look, face facts. Every last little sweet baby who's born into this economy is marketable. By default, the hospital where the baby is born will make money right up front. Doesn't matter to them whether they take it from the parents, the state or private insurance (presumably earned in trade by the parents). Over the years since ppl started believing that you can't have a baby w/o a medical staff and facility, the regulators have swarmed in so that each precious baby born is also a meal ticket for a sawrm of regulatory blood suckers.

From there, the schoolpeople stand to rake it in. Every precious child is a meal ticket for the publishers of inane schoolbooks, teachers, administrators, guidance staff, planners, legislators and lobbyists.

If they make it through that gauntlet w/o becoming a meal ticket for some state or private program or the justice system, then what? You go out into the market and try and make a place for yourself that actually pays you something. There's no getting around benefitting others in that pursuit. In fact, it can be very gratifying when the product of your efforts make others happier, wealthier, healthier or somehow better off. But it depends largely on who benefits from your labour and how.

If you go pro sports, the team and the league and the sponsoring institution make money, the fans enjoy the show. And, if you are able to retain control of some of that profit, you might just be a good role model and inspiration to others. If you go to prison, the prison makes money, no one's any happier or better off for it and you're still one broke ass mfer. Where's the gratification in that?

There's nothing sneaky or underhanded about enjoying the benefit of your own talents and hard work.

Here, see if you can wrap your mind around this:

http://jonathangullible.com/mmedia/philosop.swf

Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked,  and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that  the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque  self-deception."  
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0517150735/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'>Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger, 1916, Ch.9

[Anonymous]

On 2005-11-08 07:58:00, Antigen wrote:

"Get over? You mean like stealing or cheating your way into enjoying some of the benefit of your own productivity?



Look, face facts. Every last little sweet baby who's born into this economy is marketable. By default, the hospital where the baby is born will make money right up front. Doesn't matter to them whether they take it from the parents, the state or private insurance (presumably earned in trade by the parents). Over the years since ppl started believing that you can't have a baby w/o a medical staff and facility, the regulators have swarmed in so that each precious baby born is also a meal ticket for a sawrm of regulatory blood suckers.



From there, the schoolpeople stand to rake it in. Every precious child is a meal ticket for the publishers of inane schoolbooks, teachers, administrators, guidance staff, planners, legislators and lobbyists.



If they make it through that gauntlet w/o becoming a meal ticket for some state or private program or the justice system, then what? You go out into the market and try and make a place for yourself that actually pays you something. There's no getting around benefitting others in that pursuit. In fact, it can be very gratifying when the product of your efforts make others happier, wealthier, healthier or somehow better off. But it depends largely on who benefits from your labour and how.



If you go pro sports, the team and the league and the sponsoring institution make money, the fans enjoy the show. And, if you are able to retain control of some of that profit, you might just be a good role model and inspiration to others. If you go to prison, the prison makes money, no one's any happier or better off for it and you're still one broke ass mfer. Where's the gratification in that?



There's nothing sneaky or underhanded about enjoying the benefit of your own talents and hard work.



Here, see if you can wrap your mind around this:



http://jonathangullible.com/mmedia/philosop.swf

Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked,  and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that  the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque  self-deception."  
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0517150735/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'>Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger, 1916, Ch.9

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Wow!  You have it all figured out.  Maybe we all should just live in the woods and hunt and feed like our ancestors, but that is not the way society has progressed; right or wrong.  We live in a service economy where everyone makes money by providing services.  Some make a disgusting amounts out of doing nothing, but if there is a market for it they'll continue to profit.  Our job should be to stop those from exploiting people for their gains.  More power to athletes; take it while you can and do the best with what you get.  It doesn't last long.

[Antigen]

On 2005-11-08 08:21:00, Anonymous wrote:


Wow!  You have it all figured out.  Maybe we all should just live in the woods and hunt and feed like our ancestors, but that is not the way society has progressed; right or wrong.  We live in a service economy where everyone makes money by providing services.  Some make a disgusting amounts out of doing nothing, but if there is a market for it they'll continue to profit.  Our job should be to stop those from exploiting people for their gains.  More power to athletes; take it while you can and do the best with what you get.  It doesn't last long."

Live in the woods?? LOL, sure, some ppl do that and seem quite happy at it. But even they go into town from time to time for society and manufactured and imported goods.

"We live in a service economy where everyone makes money by providing services.  Some make a disgusting amounts out of doing nothing, but if there is a market for it they'll continue to profit."

We could improve that situation a LOT by eliminating as much as possible of the COERCION in the market. Public education is one obvious target. The Drug War is another. FDA could be pared down to something similar to Consumers' Union or eliminated altogether, since the consumer advocacy market actually supports itself w/o coercion.

They know that it is human nature to take up causes whereby a man may oppress his neighbor, no matter how unjustly. ... Hence they have had no trouble in finding men who would preach the damnability and heresy of the new doctrine from the very pulpit.
--Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer