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« on: November 02, 2005, 06:37:00 PM »
I have an almost 18 year old who is dylexic and ADD. She dropped out of high school 5 credit short of graduating. She has a behavioral problem and is currently in a wilderness camp and is improving. She is atheletic and loves to snowboard and wishes to complete high school as quickly as possible.
Has anybody heard of northstar, fulshear ranch, benchmark or does anybody know of other forum or interesting links to investigate these programs
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2005, 01:15:00 PM »
Here's something about Northstar.
http://outside.away.com/magazine/1095/10f_deth.html

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2005, 07:51:00 PM »
Depends on which NorthStar school.

http://www.northstarcenter.com/

is part of Aspen Education and is in Bend, Oregon for 18-24 year olds.

http://www.aspeneducation.com
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2005, 07:59:00 PM »
I was referring to the north star center in bend oregon for 18-24
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2005, 02:05:00 AM »
Why not just let her go back to highschool?

Life is like a shit sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shit you gotta eat.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2005, 12:33:00 PM »
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On 2005-11-05 23:05:00, Nihilanthic wrote:

"Why not just let her go back to highschool?

Life is like a shit sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shit you gotta eat.
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She Dropped out, the reason she dropped out may still exist and doesnt want to go back.  I can relate
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2005, 12:45:00 PM »
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On 2005-11-02 15:37:00, problemchild wrote:

"I have an almost 18 year old who is dylexic and ADD. She dropped out of high school 5 credit short of graduating. She has a behavioral problem and is currently in a wilderness camp and is improving. She is atheletic and loves to snowboard and wishes to complete high school as quickly as possible.

Has anybody heard of northstar, fulshear ranch, benchmark or does anybody know of other forum or interesting links to investigate these programs"


Why are you looking for information on this place after the fact?  You've already sent her off, no doubt because you know you can't do diddly when she turns 18 and can make her own decisions.  

Did you do any research before you sent her off - outside the people who were telling you what you wanted to hear?

You're here now, and I'm sure you've figured out that most of us here have no use for "behavior modification", and I know I'm not going to advocate any type of programming, mind control, or anything type of control or coercion

Your daughter has a mind of her own.  She's not you.  You should think about why she chose this direction, not about what you want for her.  Sure, when we see someone heading down a road that we know is going to be a rough ride, we want to give them a map with an alternate route.  But a suggestion is much different than locking her into a private prison, and real-world experience will show her in time that she might need that diploma.

Or maybe she doesn't... maybe she doesn't want to go to college.  Maybe she'll be a prolific writer... maybe she'll start her own company.... maybe she'll marry a well-to-do guy and spend her life raising your grandkids.  Who really cares if she doesn't know the difference between Renoir and Monet at a dinner party?

Listen to your kid.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2005, 01:03:00 PM »
"Why are you looking for information on this place after the fact?" ... Actually, if you'd read carefully, the questions are about possible NEXT placement.

"You're here now, and I'm sure you've figured out that most of us here have no use for "behavior modification", and I know I'm not going to advocate any type of programming, mind control, or anything type of control or coercion" ... Actually, the kinds of places the inquiry is about aren't lock-downs, or particularly programming, mind control, or the like, although they will incorporate counselling (or is that bad of itself).  But the programs know that at 18 the participant can walk.  (I also note that one of them wants anything from 4 to 12 months paid in advance - with no refunds!!!  That is one thing I'd not pay, even if it was the most wonderful place!)  

Finally, though the original poster indeed did "sent her off", to where I don't know besides some wilderness program, one not condemn all programs blindly.  Some wilderness programs are outstanding, especially as they remove a lot of distractions and allow the participant to really learn about more basic things about themselves and about life.  Simple does have virtues.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2005, 01:24:00 PM »
You can use the "Quote" feature... works quite nicely.

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Actually, if you'd read carefully, the questions are about possible NEXT placement.



I did read carefully - and that's where the missing pieces are.  Kid's already in a prögram (thanks for the inspiration, Antigen) and I asked why she's only looking at the other side now.  What prögram is it?  What are the rules?  What's really going on in there?  Do you know?

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Actually, the kinds of places the inquiry is about aren't lock-downs, or particularly programming, mind control, or the like, although they will incorporate counselling (or is that bad of itself).  But the programs know that at 18 the participant can walk.  (I also note that one of them wants anything from 4 to 12 months paid in advance - with no refunds!!!  That is one thing I'd not pay, even if it was the most wonderful place!)  

I agree.  But on that token - some parents will hand over tens of thousands of dollars to someone to fix their kid.  Is the kid "broken"?  If there is a genuine problem - it's nothing that a little parental elbow grease and and "therapy" that's endorsed by a health insurance agency can't handle... with a few exceptions of course - but I'm talking about the majority.  Kids need parents and guidance... not programs.

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Finally, though the original poster indeed did "sent her off", to where I don't know besides some wilderness program, one not condemn all programs blindly.  Some wilderness programs are outstanding, especially as they remove a lot of distractions and allow the participant to really learn about more basic things about themselves and about life.  Simple does have virtues."


You're absolutely right... SIMPLE has virtues.  The problem with most programs is that they form a little society with a highly organized set of rules, regulations and even language in some cases.  The simple approach is to cut the drama that some parents seem to thrive on ("Oh.... I had to SEND MY KID AWAY..." which could be on the spectrum of Munchausen's syndrome) and TALK to the kid.  It's not hard, people.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2005, 06:10:00 PM »
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On 2005-11-02 15:37:00, problemchild wrote:

"I have an almost 18 year old who is dylexic and ADD. She dropped out of high school 5 credit short of graduating. She has a behavioral problem and is currently in a wilderness camp and is improving. She is atheletic and loves to snowboard and wishes to complete high school as quickly as possible.

Has anybody heard of northstar, fulshear ranch, benchmark or does anybody know of other forum or interesting links to investigate these programs"
Hello -- I heard Northstar is pretty good, the kids can leave if the heat gets to be too much for them.  The others I can not speak to.  Its great to see that you are still advocating for your child even though she is turning 18, there are many parents who simply give up.
Dont listen to all the negative responses, most of them have been here so long they are programmed to write what they do without reading your entire post, just slamming any parent who is looking for help with their children and want them to have a better life than they have.
If you hang in long enough you might get a few level headed responses from people who are objective.  My kid was in a similar situation and turned out great, just do alot of research and talk to parents who have sent their kids there.
Good luck
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