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Advice to Parents Considering Hyde School

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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-10-11 08:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Hyde does have Psychologists on staff.  They are active professionals in Bath and Woodstock who see a large number of students on a regualr basis.  The psychologists then communicate with the parents and the school.  There also are several substance abuse pros on staff at the schools.  Gigi's husband is one there's another man named Geno Ring that see's a huge number of students in a group setting on both campuses.  There are also people on both campus that have advanced degrees in learning disablities.



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I do not think it's accurate to state that "Hyde does have psychologists on staff." Our experience with Hyde is that the school is willing to refer students to clinicians in the local community. That is VERY different from saying that Hyde has clinicians on staff. Moreover, in our experience the coordination between Hyde and the clinicians tends to be rather superficial in many instances. Also, in our experience the clinician did not commuicate regularly with the school or with us. We received one phone call during an entire year (not that we expected regular phone calls -- we wanted to respect our child's privacy) and the clinician told us he/she had exactly one conversation during last year with Hyde staff.

This is a major problem, given the large numbers of students at Hyde with mental health issues. This is what distresses so many educational consultants and parents who recognize that schools that accept these students need to have appropriate professional services ON CAMPUS (and refer off campus when necessary and appropriate).

Anonymous:
My wife and I were kicked out of Hyde washington dc school because we began to ask questions about the school and the money.We were at the school for six years and Joe Gauld rules with an iron fist. :evil:

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-11-07 10:20:00, Anonymous wrote:

"My wife and I were kicked out of Hyde washington dc school because we began to ask questions about the school and the money.We were at the school for six years and Joe Gauld rules with an iron fist. :evil: "

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I'm sorry to hear about your experience with Joe Gauld and the Hyde-DC school.  Are you willing to summarize your experiences and concerns with Hyde?  Are there issues that parents considering Hyde should know about and take into consideration?  Are there issues that the other school systems around the U.S. that Hyde is entering should know about?  Are your experiences similar to or different from those reported by parents whose kids were/are enrolled in the two Hyde boarding schools?

I hope you've been able to find a good alternative to Hyde.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-11-07 10:20:00, Anonymous wrote:

"My wife and I were kicked out of Hyde washington dc school because we began to ask questions about the school and the money.We were at the school for six years and Joe Gauld rules with an iron fist. :evil: "

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Funny you say this because according to the "pro Hydettes" Joe Gauld has very little involvement.  I agree with you that Joe Gauld is VERY involved!!  

I too am very curious about your experiences at the DC school.  I don't hear much about the school other than the headmaster who came to speak at the boarding school and gave a "ra,ra rally!"

Does Joe Gauld or anyone else from the family get involved in the daily life at DC? Is it true that the kids do much better at Hyde DC then the public school system, or is this the same false public relations BS as at the boarding school?  Have you complained to the DC officials?

As far as money, what kind of questions were you asking that they threw you out?  Again this goes back to the censorship at Hyde. Hyde does NOT want anyone to make waves!

By the way, for those of you who heard all those great speeches from the Gauld family about how they don't make much money.....I know for a fact that the school, which is owned by the Gauld's is worth A LOT of $$$$! I'll take 1/4 of their net worth and retire any day!!!

Anonymous:
I am amazed & heartened to see this site.  I'm a parent whose child left Hyde last year - after 2 years.  He transferred to another boarding school, one we should have enrolled in in the first place.  ANY good small school with caring faculty would have done it for us - without the high drama of Hyde. People put their kids into Hyde in a crisis - often on the advice of a consultant.  It was negligent to do this.  Leaving Hyde was leaving a cult.  I won't go on about this - lest I be accused by a Hyde fan of being over- emotional. My son wanted to go to a real school - one that valued academics and didn't use him as a 'proctor'.     Hyde pressured him intensely, wanting him to stay and 'face his fears'. I had several horrendous phone calls with staff.  At Hyde the first day they tell parents not to believe what your child tells you:  Deciding to listen to my son and advocate for his leaving was the best and hardest thing I have ever done.  Hyde doesn't want to hear the 'truth' - and when a parent and child decide what's best for themselves, they accuse you of various character flaws.

The 'seminars' - "let go, Let Hyde"... as they say...
With its foreground of "character" being more important that academic achievement, Hyde uses intensive ad hoc group therapy sessions to  intentionally intrude into the fabric and balance of the family system.  A retreat or "flc' is several days of 3 long 'seminars' a day punctuated by various group exercises designed to break down defenses.  This is practicing family systems group therapy without a license.  Of course no one at Hyde will admit this!   Hyde can't call itself a therapeutic school, of course, because there is no qualified counseling staff running these seminars or working with the kids -   despite the obvious needs of many if not most of the kids.  With missionary zeal and techniques that you suddenly realize are quite coercive, they push their untested educational theory on families who didn't realize they were captives of the 'process'.  

The premise of 'fix the family, fix the kid', and 'personal growth through the Hyde process"  could not be more destructive.  People end up disclosing intimate and often painful things about themselves.  If a family chose to seek therapy, a trained therapist would guide this slowly over time and know what to do with the results.   Imagine yourself In the 6th seminar hour of the 2nd day of a 4 day 'retreat' - led by an intrusive untrained leader pushing you to 'Tell the truth! What do you do when you don't go for truth!" - you're unbelievably divulging some intense personal issue (in front of your child...) and then - after hearing 'feedback' from the group (often misplaced, stereotyped and hurtful in itself), your time is up!  Dry your tears!  It's someone else's turn now!  It's no wonder Hyde doesn't have therapist on their staff: no professional would do this to people.  The state licensing boards ought to take more of an interest in what actually takes place in seminars.  Not just individual psyches are damaged: marriages, sibling relationships - all if it.  These people have no right to put families through this in the name of 'education'.  And this is only what the parents see:  it's the kids, who have to live this psychodrama day after day, who are really stuck.  Imagine being an underclassmen and having a posse of 'seniors who run the school' in your room at night accusing you of being 'dirty'.  ("Dirty" - their work for 'breaking ethics').  "If you're not dirty, are you willing to sign this paper saying if we find anything on you that you won't go home for spring break?"  

As I read this I cannot believe I ever got involved to the level I did.  In my region, for a time, I held a leadership position where I was supposed to do this to others.  I regret not standing up at these seminars and walking out, I regret any hurtful intrusion I ever made into other people and at some point I will write  apologies and explanations to them.

Simplest advice - stay away.  If you or your family need therapy, get a good therapist.  If you need a therapeutic school, there are many.  If you need a boarding school, find one.  It's hard to believe Hyde gets away with this.  Any why am I anonymous?  Maybe in a year I won't be.  At the moment I still don't trust the school - I do feel like I've left a cult.  I left my brains at the door when I entered, and hopefully my experience will prevent you from doing the same.

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