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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2005, 06:05:00 PM »
Well...i'm sittin' in a railway station,
Got a ticket for my destination...
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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2005, 06:19:00 PM »
O.K.

..."Princess Mononoke"... yeah...The fuckin' lyrics to that cartoon rule. Eastern philosophy.  But i don' want to, nor is it my intention to color my words in that cartoon.

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i was and remain as angry as anyone.  i have a hard time even imaginin' that someone is more pissed off than me.  i have been fightin' Str8 or some authority as long as i've lived and that's the truth.  i feel things. there is blood in my veins.  The soul of the Sun ...is in the marrow of my bones.  i live my life that way.  That is my constitution so to say....whers' my bud(not beer, fuck Budweiser) ??  Give me a minute now...
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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2005, 06:41:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-11 14:50:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote:
"Uh-oh.  This is one of those super loaded super heavy questions that ever'body loves . i don' know if i can answer or if i even should.  What are the repercussions of such an honest discussion ??  Can we all remain civil in the interest of truth, or at least our version of it ??  i'll give you my opinion if you want it, but i aint gonna get dragged into some lawyerly manipulation.  Wha's up ??"

Lawyerly manipulation????? Oh my god do you think I do that??? I NEVER meant to if I ever came across that way. You dont have to answer if you think I'm going to do that. Shit.....does my training rear its ugly head even when I dont realize it????????
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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2005, 07:09:00 PM »
Sorry...

Yeah when i first got outta str8 i wanted to take all kind of violent and radical action.  As i've described, like throwin' a malotov cocktail thru the front window of the buildin', but i never did it.  i kept all that anger and rage inside of me and it came out in some anti-social ways.  stealin' and thievin' 'n' such.  Drinkin' all the time.  And jus' generally not trustin hide nor hair of  anyone.  i stayed blitzed for about 15 years.  i'm still fucked up now.  Oh yeah.

After i was outta str8 for a while and i was still just as pissed off, if not more than ever i realized that there would never be a way to make up for what i had lost.  Never.  

i'm not even really sure when i realized that, or if it happenend gradually over an extended period of time or what.  i did a lot of fucked up shit, i guess.  i'm still not really sure how i should judge my own actions, because i'm so fucked up from bein' in Str8 when i was 16,17 and 18 and 19 that i lack certain social perspectives.  But yeah i done alot of fucked up shit tryin' to get over Str8.  i've taken all kinds of wrong turns and found myself starin' down all kin' o' ugly beasts, not knowin if i was safe or not, or if the door would be busted open any second and i would be hauled away to some secret prison for people who really know what's happenin' or what 'n' ...ya know...

So i've spent some time on it...'n' wondered what i should do...

i really don' know but i jus' am tired of bein' angry 'n' mean about it.  i know what's up but i'm jus done sufferin' for it.  Well...Not sayin' i won't suffer willingly, if it seemed necessary and appropraite, but that they aint gonna make me suffer no more for them.  i aint gonna react to them.  Fuck those idiots.  i know what's up regardless of whether they live or die, suffer or thrive.  It jus' makes no nevermind to me.

i have been on this course from the time i was a little boy.  i seen all this shit comin' for such a long time.  i knew about str8 before i knew about Str8, which is to say i have always recognized the hallmarks of exploitation and oppression.  i known about this shit jus' from my mama teachin' me, when i was 5 outta native American history books how the natives of this land were forced onto reservations by the Feds. She read to me as we drove cross country in about 1973. Broken treaty after broken treaty. Slaughter after slaughter.  i knew public school was jus' a brainwash education, tryin' ta make us the fools.  i wasn' surprised when i walked into group. i saw all along how fucked up the system was.  All you have to do is study the history and you will see that there is a long established pattern of exploitation and oppression in America.

So i have been stealed against all this for a very, very long time.  i am a warrior.  i cannot allow my personal feelings to interfere with what i must do. i have no desire for revenge.  There is no hope of justice.  i will simply break the chains and walk away. Fuck them anyway.  They were always afraid of me, anyhow, why not simply live my life, the best i can, with intention(with the wounds i carry) ?? i am aware of them.  i am an Anarchist and they are an Institution.  i want to be free and they want to control. i know what i know and i'm livin' my life and tryin' my best to see the truth.  i' been fightin' oppression since long before i was in str8.  i think that is the main reason that they put me in there in the first place, they feared my vision.  Revenge is nothin'.  i'm out to annihilate oppression.

i don' know, somethin' like that...

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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2005, 07:13:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-11 14:50:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote:

"Uh-oh.  This is one of those super loaded super heavy questions that ever'body loves . i don' know if i can answer or if i even should.  What are the repercussions of such an honest discussion ??  Can we all remain civil in the interest of truth, or at least our version of it ??  i'll give you my opinion if you want it, but i aint gonna get dragged into some lawyerly manipulation.  Wha's up ??"


Lawyerly manipulation????? Oh my god do you think I do that??? I NEVER meant to if I ever came across that way. You dont have to answer if you think I'm going to do that. Shit.....does my training rear its ugly head even when I dont realize it????????"


 :rofl:  :lol:  No, you're cool.  that's jus' how i am.  Been twisted all around a few times in these parts by people tryin' ta jail me wit' their words.  i jus' sayin' if ya don like my opinion that's cool i can take criticism but i don't need to defend myself.  i am what i am 'n' that's all what i am.
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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2005, 07:20:00 PM »
War in the East...there'll be war in the West...War up North... a war down south, a war down south...

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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2005, 07:27:00 PM »
And Nonconformistlaw, is the cat who started this thread for real or what ??  Maybe this is like one of them trolls amusin' themselves, huh??  i don' know...
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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2005, 07:58:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-11 16:09:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote: "Yeah when i first got outta str8 i wanted to take all kind of violent and radical action.  As i've described.  i kept all that anger and rage inside of me and it came out in some anti-social ways.  stealin' and thievin' 'n' such.  Drinkin' all the time.  And jus' generally not trustin hide nor hair of  anyone.  i stayed blitzed for about 15 years.  i'm still fucked up now.  Oh yeah."
After my kidnapping I was extremely angry and it came out in "anti social" behavior as well. I was one wild fucked up girl for many years. But somehow I managed to bury the anger where I could no longer reach it. Now its back and I'm fucked up all over again, but in a different way this time.

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"After i was outta str8 for a while and i was still just as pissed off, if not more than ever i realized that there would never be a way to make up for what i had lost.  Never."

I've always been aware of what I had lost, my childhood, just for starters. But I wouldnt allow myself to feel the loss. God do I feel it now. :sad:

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"i'm not even really sure when i realized that, or if it happenend over an extended time or what.  i did a lot of fucked up shit, i guess, i'm still not really sure how i should judge my own actions, because i'm so fucked up from bein' in Str8 when i was 16,17 and 18 and 19.  But yeah i done alot of fucked up shit tryin' to get over Str8.  i've taken all kinds of wrong/not necsessacerily wrong(sp??) turns and found myself starin' down all kin' o' ugly beasts, not knowin if i was safe or not, or if the door would be busted open any second and i would be hauled away to some secret prison for people who really know what's happenin' or what 'n' ...ya know...So i've spent some time on it...'n' wondered what i should do..."
yeah I did plenty of stupid shit trying to forget straight...and I have always feared being unjustly locked up again. I will always fear secret prisons.

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"i really don' know but i jus' am tired of bein' angry 'n' mean about it.  i know what's up but i'm jus done sufferin' for it.  Well...Not sayin' i won't suffer willingly, but that they aint gonna make me suffer no more.  i aint gonna react to them.  Fuck those idiots.  i know what's up regardless of whether they live or die, suffer or thrive.  It jus' makes no nevermind to me."
I know I got tired of reacting to straight and making a huge mess of my life at one point...it was a long time ago. But NOW the anger and loss is so raw because the fortress that guarded my pain crumbled. I forced it into the darkest corner of my mind until it was if it never happened. Now that I feel it, more strongly than I ever, all I can think of is how I could have sent them to jail and didn't. And now I want them locked up. I want them to suffer. I want them to know the horrors we lived by their hand. Will it ever happen? I doubt it. I guess I'm just not ready to stop the anger or my need for justice since I just recently started to allow myself to go there.

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"i have been on course from the time i was a little boy.  i seen all this shit comin' for such along time.  i knew about str8 before i knew about Str8, which is to say i have always recognized the hallmarks of exploitation and oppression.  i known about this shit jus' from my mama teachin' me, when i was 5 outta native American history books how the natives of this land were forced onto reservations by the Feds.  Broken treaty after broken treaty. Slaughter after slaughter.  i knew public school was jus' a brainwash education, tryin' ta make us the fools.  i wasn' surprised when i walked into group. i saw all along how fucked up the system was.
I never dreamed that a place like straight existed. I was in a state of shock  and disbelief while there. I always was a kid that could not be controled...and I always had a huge probelm with how the world was so hell-bent on controlling others. It never made sense to me and my life was nothing but a battle, constant refusal to be controled, and insistance on thinking for myself....which is why I ended up in straight, the ultimate weapon of control.

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"So i have been stealed against all this for a very, very long time.  i am a warrior.  i cannot allow my personal feelings to interfere with what i must do. i have no desire for revenge.  There is no hope of justice.  i will simply break the chains and walk away. Fuck them anyway.  They bwere always afraid of me, why not simply live my life, the best i can with the wounds i carry ?? i am aware of them.  i am an Anarchist and they are an Institution.  i want to be free and they want control. Revenge is nothin'.  i'm out to annihilate oppression.

Despite my anger, straight will not beat me. I will always fight injustice...that is why I wanted to become a lawyer in the first place. But i dont know if I will ever find peace until after I have spent a lifetime doing everything in my power to bring some justice to those suffering from injustice, especially kids. I just dont think I will feel free until then.
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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2005, 08:09:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-11 16:13:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote:

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On 2005-10-11 15:41:00, Nonconformistlaw wrote:

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On 2005-10-11 14:50:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote:
"Uh-oh.  This is one of those super loaded super heavy questions that ever'body loves . i don' know if i can answer or if i even should.  What are the repercussions of such an honest discussion ??  Can we all remain civil in the interest of truth, or at least our version of it ??  i'll give you my opinion if you want it, but i aint gonna get dragged into some lawyerly manipulation.  Wha's up ??"
Lawyerly manipulation????? Oh my god do you think I do that??? I NEVER meant to if I ever came across that way. You dont have to answer if you think I'm going to do that. Shit.....does my training rear its ugly head even when I dont realize it????????"


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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2005, 08:10:00 PM »
What is justice ??  Does a lawyer even know ??
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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2005, 08:14:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-11 16:27:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote:

"And Nonconformistlaw, is the cat who started this thread for real or what ??  Maybe this is like one of them trolls amusin' themselves, huh??  i don' know..."

Beats me. Although I can see why someone would want to hook up with another survivor since only a survivor can understand where we have been. But then again...who knows!!!  :eek: Guess well have to wait for survivor boy to reappear and fill us in. Until then......whatever  :lol:
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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2005, 08:19:00 PM »
...hmmmm... did jya see ma udder(strictly phonetic, no sexual metaphor intended, in any way) kwestishion ??  'Bout justice 'n' all.  Not sayin' i know the answer but wantin' ta see what someone might have ta teach... ya know...
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« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2005, 08:27:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-11 17:19:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote:

"...hmmmm... did jya see ma udder(strictly phonetic, no sexual metaphor intended, in any way) kwestishion ??  'Bout justice 'n' all.  Not sayin' i know the answer but wantin' ta see what someone might have ta teach... ya know..."

The kwestishion reference must have went straight over my head  ::rainbow::
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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2005, 08:37:00 PM »
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« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2005, 08:38:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-11 17:19:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote:


"...hmmmm... did jya see ma udder(strictly phonetic, no sexual metaphor intended, in any way) kwestishion ??  'Bout justice 'n' all.  Not sayin' i know the answer but wantin' ta see what someone might have ta teach... ya know..."


The kwestishion reference must have went straight over my head  ::rainbow:: "


i have a friend Nonconformistlaw, who says: "justice is not usin' anyone for anything".  i live by this inconsistently, at best...
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