NOTICE TO POTENTIAL PARENTS

[tommyfromhyde1]

On 2005-11-16 13:53:00, Anonymous wrote:


My son got a phone call last evening from a friend from Hyde who is still there.  He called to tell my son that he had just run away again from Hyde, but that Hyde has a new "policy" - If you tell them that you are going to run away, Hyde gives you $50.....- HELLO??

I could'a used fifty bucks. I could'a bought a bus ticket instead of freezing half to death in a Maine winter.  :grin:

"Now, I'm a walking dead man," ... "And what bothers me is that I'm dead because I tried to help the kids. And it's all the fault of all those people over there at the DEA." [Dead Man Talking]


--Ben Guillory

[Anonymous]

To the Anonymous who wrote about the father who died of a heart attack;

I am POSITIVE the NEASC who accredits these boarding schools would want to hear about this.  They NEED to hear about this to protect others by MAKING Hyde change their policies!!

If you really want to help the kids and parents still at the school, PLEASE let the NEASC know about this!!!

[Anonymous]

On 2005-11-17 15:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"To the Anonymous who wrote about the father who died of a heart attack;



I am POSITIVE the NEASC who accredits these boarding schools would want to hear about this.  They NEED to hear about this to protect others by MAKING Hyde change their policies!!



If you really want to help the kids and parents still at the school, PLEASE let the NEASC know about this!!!"

I agree -- You should inform NEASC about this terrible incident.  I've heard that NEASC has been investigating Hyde in response to other complaints.  I've looked up the NEASC procedures.  Here's the information about filing a complaint with NEASC: http://www.neasc.org/cis/complaints.PDF

You can write:

William Bennett
NEASC (New England Association of Schools and Colleges)
209 Burlington Road
Bedford, Mass. 01730-1433

[Anonymous]

Thank you for providing the info for NEASC.  I still don't understand how Hyde could get accreditation!  Is the NEASC that stupid or does Hyde keep all these abuses from coming to the public's attention?

[Anonymous]

Were any of you there when Bruce had a heart attack at Family Weekend?!
There was a staff member on the scene within minutes who is a trained and certified emergency medical technician.
The ambulance made it to the scene within 10 minutes...it's the country folks!!
The school had never had this happen and it didn't have any difibulators on campus...it's not a pleasant way to learn, but now the campus is equipped with defibulators thanks to the generosity of some parents.
If you don't have the facts...do not post!!!!!

[Anonymous]

On 2005-11-18 08:27:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Were any of you there when Bruce had a heart attack at Family Weekend?!

There was a staff member on the scene within minutes who is a trained and certified emergency medical technician.

The ambulance made it to the scene within 10 minutes...it's the country folks!!

The school had never had this happen and it didn't have any difibulators on campus...it's not a pleasant way to learn, but now the campus is equipped with defibulators thanks to the generosity of some parents.

If you don't have the facts...do not post!!!!!"

You seem to have specific knowledge of this event and Hyde's response.  I wasn't on campus then and, therefore, cannot comment on what happened (I agree that people who don't know the facts shouldn't reach conclusions about what happened).

Are you a Hyde administrator?  If so, I would appreciate it if you would comment on allegations that Hyde School does not employ mental health professionals to help students in this kind of crisis.  Is that true?  Also, does Hyde school employ mental health professionals to work with the large number of Hyde students I have met who have major mental health issues and diagnoses?

[Anonymous]

Hyde school is and always will be a great school for kids..bottom line, so stop whining all you wierdo's, it isnt a prison for christ sakes.. ::argue::  :scared:  :lol:

[Lars]

On 2005-11-18 18:25:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Hyde school is and always will be a great school for kids..bottom line, so stop whining all you wierdo's, it isnt a prison for christ sakes.. ::argue::  :scared:  :lol: "

Another troll, probably a faculty member.  

Listen, troll, it's a lousy excuse for a school.  And an abusive cult that, for many kids, might as well be a prison.  Now scram!

[Anonymous]

The beauty of this board is that everyone can voice their opinions both negative and positive.  I will never tell anyone to "scram" unless they are being abusive towards others.  Hyde is abusive enough, we don't need people coming on this board to name call!

In order to serve the public I think it is important to give the facts and let people choose for themselves.  I believe Hyde is not only a dangerous place, but a Cult and an abusive program.  I would never send my child to this place filled with a bunch of crazy staff!

[Anonymous]

On 2005-11-18 18:25:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Hyde school is and always will be a great school for kids..bottom line, so stop whining all you wierdo's, it isnt a prison for christ sakes.. ::argue::  :scared:  :lol: "

This is a typical Hyde response to the many thoughtful, constructive criticisms on this website (granted, there are other less thoughtful and constructive comments too).  It defies comprehension that someone could read the hundreds of detailed postings on this website and produce such a simplistic, broad-brush comment about Hyde.  This is the kind of naive, impressionable rhetoric parents will find at Hyde if they enroll their kid there.  This comment ignores the remarkably detailed list of concerns that many parents have expressed here related to Hyde's well known shortcomings: the emotionally abusive techniques, the cult qualities, the mismanagement of students' serious emotional and mental health problems, the inferior classroom experience, the kids who run away from Hyde, the parents who feel emotionally assaulted during seminars, the incredibly high admission and attrition rate, etc.  How could ANYONE read these postings and make such a broad, superficial comment?  Welcome to the world of Hyde.

[Anonymous]

Read this post again please. The focus was that Hyde did not have any professionals on campus to help the kids deal with this crisis. What does this have to do with living in the country? It is plain common sense to bring everyone together, talk about what happened and offer assistance to anyone who felt they needed it. This goes back to the one size fits all.  Hyde handles everything the same with the tough love approach.

What does living in the country have to do with not keeping proper medical records?  This father said he got an apology!  Hyde is good at apologies AFTER the fact.  It is amazing that in the 30 something years Hyde has been in existance, they are still learning how to become a safe "school."

I laughed when reading about the $50 Hyde is giving kids who want to run away.  IF this is true, it would be typical Hyde.  Can you picture a 16 year old girl in the middle of the country hitch hiking to town? Bruce won't be the only dead person around Hyde!!

[Anonymous]

On 2005-11-16 13:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

"My son was at Hyde for one year - last year 2003/2004 - we withdrew him as we finally realized that the "Hyde Ethics" on paper and in Joe Gauld's books were theory - the reality was basically a punitive/unskilled/abusive/cult-like atmosphere - my biggest fear for ANY knew Hyde parents is to understand that the school is "practicing psychotherapy without a license" - the only med staff person on site is an RN who dispenses meds and takes temps, etc. - If there is a calamity, Hyde has no resources to deal with it.



Witness - so horribly tragically - Spring Family Weekend at Woodstock - a father collapsed outside the gym near the girls' dorm - Hyde had NO doctor, Hyde had NO defibrilator - Hyde was NOT there in any way to help this dear father - who died.....



Ambulance from Day-Kimball hospital miles down the road eventually arrived - the kids were distressed - many of these are vulnerable kids - did Hyde have ANYONE to help them?? - NO



After hours of parents arriving for Family Weekend and learning of this death, many parents reached out to help struggling kids.  But there was really

no expert, just a lot of common sense.



At the end of the day, the School (Gauld et al) brought Gigi GAULD MacMillan's husband out of his space to talk to some kids.  A tragedy!!



Every public school system these days has a strategy to deal with a loss/catastrophe - HYDE had NOTHING in place that day - nor do they on any normal day.



My child suffered through a few years of a catastrophic illness when he was 4-6 years old.  ALL the medical paper-work was received/date-stamped by Hyde on his admittance.  Yet when he became seriously ill again last January (2005), the "school nurse" didn't have his records/didn't have the emergency advice from our pediatrician, etc. - I drove to Woodstock to take my son to their off-campus doctor, etc. - I got an "apology later"........too late for me. And we ended up in the hospital to sort out necessary medical intervention...........



My son got a phone call last evening from a friend from Hyde who is still there.  He called to tell my son that he had just run away again from Hyde, but that Hyde has a new "policy" - If you tell them that you are going to run away, Hyde gives you $50.....- HELLO??



Enough for now - know that Hyde is a place to put your beloved child if you want to lose their respect - It's an easy placement as they welcome just about anybody and prey on the rich parents who can foot the entire year's bill instantly -



At the end of the day, if you love your kid and can muster the patience to stagger through their sometimes awful behavior, do it close to home - don't send them to this weird place..."

Isn't Gigi McMillans husband the one who quit at one point because of plagierism?

[Lars]

On 2005-11-18 20:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

"The beauty of this board is that everyone can voice their opinions both negative and positive.  I will never tell anyone to "scram" unless they are being abusive towards others.  Hyde is abusive enough, we don't need people coming on this board to name call!

You're missing the point, this jerk WAS being abusive.  He (or she) was not entitled to a thoughtful & polite response when he called us weirdos (talk about the pot calling the kettle black!).

I've shared some truly painful memories on this board and I have little tolerance for garbage like that.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-11-18 08:27:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Were any of you there when Bruce had a heart attack at Family Weekend?!

There was a staff member on the scene within minutes who is a trained and certified emergency medical technician.

The ambulance made it to the scene within 10 minutes...it's the country folks!!

The school had never had this happen and it didn't have any difibulators on campus...it's not a pleasant way to learn, but now the campus is equipped with defibulators thanks to the generosity of some parents.

If you don't have the facts...do not post!!!!!"

A couple of days ago I posted the following response to your point.  I notice you haven't answered the questions.  So, I'll repeat them:

You seem to have specific knowledge of this event and Hyde's response. I wasn't on campus then and, therefore, cannot comment on what happened (I agree that people who don't know the facts shouldn't reach conclusions about what happened).

Are you a Hyde administrator? If so, I would appreciate it if you would comment on allegations that Hyde School does not employ mental health professionals to help students in this kind of crisis. Is that true? Also, does Hyde school employ mental health professionals to work with the large number of Hyde students I have met who have major mental health issues and diagnoses?

[Anonymous]

[qauote]A couple of days ago I posted the following response to your point. I notice you haven't answered the questions. So, I'll repeat them: [/quote]

Yes, how rude for this person to not write back to you at all.  Especially after you so clearly "noticed" they hadn't answered!  The nerve!!  Its been a full two days now, and I have to admit, I too am outraged this person has not responded to these and other questions we all suspect, but don't really know for sure.  Anonymous, thank you for this timely reminder and even going the extra mile by repeating the questions.  

I think the latter will help in particular with moving this right along.