Betty Semblers Deposition

[Anonymous]

After reading her deposition I think Betty pretty much screwed things up for her and Mel

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-08 17:09:00, Anonymous wrote:

"China is greatly misunderstood by most Westerners don't you think? I was totally amazed by their culture and sheer size, and supper hot economy. 17 million people, 2000 skyscrapers underconstruction in Shanghai! 50% of the worlds construction cranes in this country.



Have a safe trip. Careful in Colombia."

If you went to Beijing/Shanghai/XiAn/etc,then you did not see China.Also if you go to the "famous" villages (like Dali or Lijiang),then you did not see China.The real China has no skyscrapers or construction cranes.
I suggest you go to LioCheng,Shandong or JiShou,Hunan or JiangCheng,Yunnan if you want to see the real China.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-08 17:14:00, Frank Discussion wrote:

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That being said, China man and Dobbs, which I think are two different people, can do nothing to stop it.



Threats will not stop what is about to happen in court.

I think that these threats that you refer to, even if they could be taken seriously at all, will hold no bearing one way or the other concerning how that case will turn out.  



You've gotta be kidding.. :grin:"

Threats stopping WHAT?
The only thing I want to stop is Helen Petermann's breathing MY AIR!

Im Not Dobbs,but I am in China.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-11 09:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"'cause it's interesting to Straight victims and 'cause some idiot was trying to obscure it with his spam."

No no no no no!!!!

I was spamming it BECAUSE THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BETTY SEMBLER DEPOSITION!!!!!!!!!!!
You Moron(s)!

[Anonymous]

you were spamming because you a dick

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-13 04:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

"you were spamming because you a dick"

My being a "dick" as you put it has nothing to do with my spamming.
I TOLD YOU why I spammed this thread.

Im a dick.
I spammed this thread.
I would have spammed this thread if I were not a dick.
I would have spammed this thread if I were an Artichoke.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-13 05:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-10-13 04:08:00, Anonymous wrote:


"you were spamming because you a dick"

Im a dick.

 :rofl:

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-08 17:48:00, Antigen wrote:

"Deflection aside, the wife of a high ranking (read: crony) appointed ambassador has testified under oath her fidelity, affection and confidence in a man (and I use that term loosely) who has been judged guilty of extreme sadistic child abuse.



It's public record.



Who gives a fuck how poor Brian or Nelson feels about it. It's hard fact as stated by close a associate of one of the Büsh brothers' close cronies.



America suspects that our leaders are raving mad and stark naked. All they need is the evidence. No one of us has a compelling case. But there are thousands of us who know.



Now... why the fuck are we ripping each other up like it's OMR again? Can anyone explain that to me? I know why I did it then. I thought it was all theatre for the benefit of our demented parents. I never dreamt any of you would be so enthralled with it as to keep it up.



WTF?!

I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole



--Malcolm X

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Drug war POW

Seed Chicklet `71 - `80

Straight, Sarasota

   10/80 - 10/82

Apostate 10/82 -

Anonymity Anonymous"

See, that's my biggest bone of contention with you Ginger and I've said it from the start. I think you are alot smarter than me and I openly admit that shit. But you actually LET this ripping like its OMR go on in here. It's b/c we don't have a set agenda that people are allowed to come at all and hurt one another in post, and/or b/c there are no requirements for identification or limits placed on Total free speech in here perhaps b/c someone or someones don't want to injure that particular civil right. And if a crobarkiller comes out b/c of it well then tha'ts alrite, too.

People mention "hey lets' try this or that, let's really protest or something like it..." its old news and boring.

I do like your idea about someone taking subpoenas and beginning to ask others what they know. Then it becomes hard evidence.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-11 09:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"'cause it's interesting to Straight victims and 'cause some idiot was trying to obscure it with his spam."

I think Beth was spamming up the boards, not some other quack male, dickhead.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-04 08:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Yes, Betty Sembler has shown us her disgusting, shit-filled soul during her deposition.  This lying sack of fecal matter does view the legal system as her own personal apparatus, designed to protect her and her ilk from the "threatening" antics of R. Bradbury (my favorite faggot these days, by the way) and other druggie ingrates who tell the real story about the teen torture centers that she ran.  This putrid pile of puss-filled polyps has shown her arrogance, her ignorance, and her generally vile and distasteful demeanor.  Truly repulsive and vile, this revolting, lying coozebag and her cronies in the DFAF, etc. are not only criminally responsible for knowingly and willfully abusing thousands of kids at a time, but also for spreading lies and disinformation about drug use to any who will listen.  By spreading these lies and bogus theories, they are able to continue to feed the beast that they created---filling prisons, rehabs, and drug testing labs in a manner that eventually profits her fascist friends not only economically, but also in the sense that their fucked-up, totalitarian, we-know-what's-in-your-best-interest world view is furthered at the expense of common sense, individual rights, and decency.  This cunt is a dangerous individual, and she truly is more threatening to you, me, Ray Bradbury and everyone else than Bradbury could ever be to her.  More dangerous than a schizophrenic mulatto with a crow bar, Betty and her kind have no place in a civilized society.  In a truly just world, she would be unceremoniuosly weighted down with bricks and dumped in a cesspool, along with her husband and 'dear friends' like Miller Newton. "

biz-umpity bump!

[Anonymous]

As for spamming to the point of forum disruption, I can't begin to imagine what motivates a forum spam-hacker. This is not for lack of trying. Okay, that's an exaggeration. I can begin to imagine. But I cannot end imagining, because I have failed to get an answer, or I have failed to understand.

As for anything else I post that might be considered spam, well why don't you call the spam police on me.

Look, I know it isn't easy getting your little tyranny together over the internet. But you are never going to get us to behave the way you want us to. That is called psycho. Take your meds.

[teachback]

Why don't you have yourself a nice, warm cup of shut the fuck up? No one fucking cares what you say or what you don't say -- say whatever you want, it doesn't fucking matter. Rock on, bitch. See?

[Anonymous]

I wasn't talking to you, and I am sure I shut up more often than you do.

[Antigen]

Case in point. What would happen if Straight, Inc. cronies gained control of, say, a state prison system?

Date:         Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:34:37 -0400
Sender: Drug Policy Forum of Texas
From: Kay Lee
Subject:      DAMAGE CONTROL

DAMAGE CONTROL

The day you know the truth but cease to speak it is the day you begin to die."
~Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

As you may have read in many Florida newspapers, the FDOC is currently being investigated by the FBI and FDLE for steroid abuse among guards, inmate labor on private projects, pilfering large amounts from the recycling fund, and hiring people who get paid for not working, just playing ball. And you, fellow citizens, voters, taxpayers, are as usual, swallowing the losses.

These are just a minor sampling of all the illegal and immoral activities going on in the department.  Although most of the activities looked at so far have involved recently 'retired' Region Director Allen Clark and his personal favorites, the ballplayers, there is so much more and so many more that should be investigated and charged or fired or retrained.

And it all has to go back to Clark's friend, relative and admitted mentor, James Crosby, the man who was told about guard Timothy 'Big Red' Thornton's proclivity for beating prisoners before Thornton helped brutally murder inmate Frank Valdes at Florida State Prison in 1999. Crosby was the warden there at the time.

Crosby chose to ignore the warnings, and shortly after the jury let all the murdering guards go free, he was promoted to top dog, secretary of the Florida DOC.  All too often that's is how it goes in the DOC.  The guards get promoted over professional officers.  If officers complain, they get the worst shifts and duties, are shunned or get fired.

Allen Clark's reign of terror is over, thank God. But Crosby, the little man with no compassion, is still in his position of unearned power.  He went publicly silent for a couple of weeks when all the poop hit the fan, but behind the scenes he's been running around threatening anyone who might talk.  He was definitely shook.

We almost had his resignation last week, but he got an unexpected reprieve from the man who hired him in the first place.

Florida's governor Jeb Bush, little brother to George, has expressed total support for his protégé, advising him to ignore the people giving him grief. I don't know what he says to him in private, but Bush publicly has nothing but praise for the little man with the big temper who shirks his responsibilities, allows criminals to wear the uniform of professionals,  and uses the department for his own personal gain.  

Bare in mind, James Crosby forces department employees to support the governor with donations and coerced attendance at political functions.

Members of the legislature are claiming that Crosby is a nice fellow (as if that's the quality that makes a good warden) whom all employees like, despite the fact that every letter I get and every phone call the reporters of several newspapers get from correctional officers ends with "don't use my name, I am in fear of retaliation".  

Florida's spineless legislatures have decided to turn their backs on all the information we've been giving them, on all the people who serve in a prison system with no focus on ethics, in order to support the governor's man.  These officers need and deserve the legislator's intervention, but so far it's been withheld.

So, with Jeb Bush's blessing, Crosby feels he is back in the saddle again.

After his meeting with Jeb, plans for damage control have most likely began in earnest.  What you see from here on is most likely orchestrated, at least in part, by Bush or people who are experts at making weak men look powerful and bad men look good.  It'll be a professional attempt to protect someone who doesn't deserve protection.

How obvious does it have to get?  When the man at the top is nasty,  the wall of silence wraps around him like a cloak and everything about the system begins to stink. The Florida prison system has become a cesspool of corruption, nepotism, favoritism, and racism, with a core of good and professional officers trying desperately to hold it all together with no help from their superiors.  Among these employees moral is rock bottom, fear is sky high, and an air of defeat is immanent.

Crosby is trying to get things together for a big public relations campaign.  He?s going to try to counter all the negative things that's been exposed.  It is possible Jeb is going to try to let him skate.  

For that reason, I must emphasize to the officers that if you really want a safe and fair place to work where you move up according to your own efforts, now is the time to push harder. I know some of you are thinking of giving up because you believe that Crosby is going to survive, that the bad guys are going to win again, which is exactly what James Crosby wants and desperately needs you to believe to keep his job.

Remember Crosby's favorite saying, "If you go after the king, you better not wound him"?  Well, we've wounded him.  We can't walk away now and hope for the best.  We've got to forge ahead full force.

Right now you've got media attention, legislators under pressure and the boss stressed out. Where before no one would listen, you've now got a real voice!   If you don't do this now you will never know your power.   We need you, we're counting on you, and we can amplify your voice.  A few more leads, a little more truth and you'll see, all things are possible.   And when you win, and the department begins to do the things it takes to get dignity back into corrections, we'll go after pay raises.

STAY AWARE:   There are meetings planned for next week, ordered by Crosby, where Wardens and other high level administrators will be made to submit positive things from their facilities, This isn't the first time Crosby has coerced your support.  

BE PROACTIVE:  I believe there is one topic that can expose James Crosby's abuse of his position to the satisfaction of the legislators. I am particularly interested in the illegal political activities.  That is a crime that can?t be covered up.  

I know many of you have felt the pressure to be supportive of Jeb Bush at your own expense and/or on your own time.  Are there any of you who will confirm the allegations in the packets below?  Please offer any information that I can check out through public records or other means of investigation?  
 
PACKET PAGES FROM REGION 1 EMPLOYEES
 
Opening page of Packet
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/today/acpackage1.html
 
Extortion In It's Many Forms
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/today/acpackage2.html
 
To Area Ministers and Local Leaders
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/today/acpackage3.html
 
To The Florida Democratic Party
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/today/acpackage4.html
 
To Bill Warner, FSECC Fiscal Agent
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/today/acpackage5.html
 
I can offer you anonymity, I can get the public records requests done, the media is more than ready and willing to run with it, we just need your input.
 
If you have any information on illegal activities, please contact me, Kay Lee, at
 
Kay Lee
http://www.floridastateprisons.net
 
Or contact these concerned reporters:
 Florida Media Steve Bousquet, SP Times
 
 Florida Media Marc Caputo Miami Herald ;
 
 Florida Media Karen Voyles, Gainesville Sun ;
 
 Florida Media Follick, Tampa Tribune ;
 
 Florida Media Bill Cotterell, political editor, Tallahassee Dem.

Palm Beach Post tcnews@gtcom.net
 
Florida Media Crystal Cameron WMBB TV http://www.angelfire.com/oz/today/jamescrosby.html
 
"There is no way to know the strength it takes to lift a weight until the weight is lifted...and that is strength enough.  To say what we see and what we feel requires strength, not a mere one but a significant one...as to love, to simply love takes strength, not a mere strength but a significant one...  May we find the strength we need."  Michael Bridge http//www.co-intelligence.org/P-gestures.html

 

...it is worth discussing radical changes, not in the expectation that they will be adopted promptly but for two other reasons. One is to construct an ideal goal, so that incremental changes can be judged by whether they move the institutional structure toward or away from that ideal. The other reason is very different. It is so that if a crisis requiring or facilitating radical change does arise, alternatives will be available that have been carefully developed and fully explored."

Anonymity Anonymous

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-17 06:48:00, Antigen wrote:

"Case in point. What would happen if Straight, Inc. cronies gained control of, say, a state prison system?

What if they gained control of say, a once-great nation?