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« on: November 30, 2003, 03:16:00 AM »
I come on this site hoping to hear about legal revolution.  I come to this site and volunteer ALL of any of my efforts to start that revolution against people who operate under the guise of the laws that helped them to exploit children and they are still doing it now.

There IS NO LAW IN THIS.  Just like there is no law in FEAR.  

I come here and see a lot of healing and mostly talking about people who didn't know, back then, what their rights were - and they were just trying to breathe.

But coming to this sight is alot like my enjoyable experience with my computer.  I have to back up off the motherfucker alot of the time or otherwise it will drive me crazy.  I bought this new computer hoping it would play games, print, scan, and communicate and educate me more for the outside world.  I don't know if you would believe all the extra time and money I have had to spend just to get this kind of shitty experience with this fucking computer.  I was really gung ho about my computer at first.  But now I am still, after all my pulling out my hair and yelling and even kicking the damn P4, going to wind up fucked cos the fucking thing always needs attention.

So, I am tired and bored of it.  Nothing seems to have a solution.  I always read up on all the events surrounding PumpGate but they just seem to be rewrites of all the fucking things I read two months ago.  I have tried to follow others and find attorneys, even ones we claim to be using, and get shut down whenever I open my mouth about what I am doing - even shut down by fellow survivors.  Its these same survivors who tell me I should find forgiveness and start living, that come here and post about how mad they are at their enemies and how hard it is for them to forgive when noone pays mind to the wrong(those enemies are mine, too)  Hmm.

I am not asking for ANY advice about any of this, I a merely stating that nothing is EVER done, in my life experience, unless I do it on my own.  

I hear a lot of preaching about forgiveness, but I do not see it being demanded.  I hear a lot about getting EVEN and collecting compensatory, punitive, and injuctive damages - but I do not see it being ACTED on.  I hear a lot about the enemy eventually going to fall, and plans for the FUTURE, the far future, but don't see any actions now that will achieve the motions more quickly toward this "intention".  The two don't seem to be related here, even: intention and motion.

So, at best I think that coming here for me is just going to be talking shit and talking more shit.  I have offered my services physically, publicly, anonymously, and in several other ways.  I am told to wait or that I am going about things the wrong way.  You know I am not and I know I am not.  

I guess I am Irish like that.  But I don't have to be any nationality to see that a change of true bodily physical action should become unified in order to happen.
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2003, 05:38:00 PM »
why are you spamming up the board?

Being a street cop, witnessing the tragedy firsthand, I've become
convinced that drug prohibition -- not drugs themselves -- are driving the HIV epidemic and the systemic crime that has swamped our criminal justice systems.
--Vancouver Police Const. Gil Puder

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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2003, 11:55:00 PM »
If you are so bored and tired.....Go find another fuckin hobby!!! You sound like just another CONTROL FREAK pissed because things are not going the exact way you think they should. News Flash......the world does not revolve around you, it never has and it never will.
Grow Up!
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2003, 11:20:00 AM »
Thank you Dave.  
I am now 100% positive about my first post.
YeS, I do feel like nothing ever goes my way.  You are correct, it probably never will.
I agree with you.
I am not your enemy.  MANY don't feel like there is anything they can do about what was done to them.  In my heart I know this is not so, and I am tired of hearing others talk smack about how they have moved on, forgiven, or grown up - only to see them a few days later balling about hurt from the past.
I am trying to find out how to do something instead of my talking and writing about it.
You know what has to happen in order for child abuse to be STOPPED.  Of this I am certain.
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2003, 06:39:00 PM »
Ok, here's a quick recap, as I see it, of what's gone down over the last couple of years.

Going way back, Richard forced the last Straight, Inc location to shut down or reorganize under different names.

Wes picked up the issue and, drawing on all his talent and skills at research and documentation, he's had just about untold influence in bringing people around the the nightmare reality that Straight didn't actually shut down.

SAFE has been severely crippled, though not dead yet, due to a lot of light having been shed on their operation by Florida media, protestors, former clients keeping in touch w/ current members, etc. No telling exactly how effective that effort has been. The planned lawsuit failed due to incompetent (intentionally or not) legal representation.

Phil, Rebecca and Lulu cleaned Miller's clock, shutting down the Program under the Kids name.

As all of this is going on, ppl are talking and comparing notes. Something like a dozen of the WWASP/CEDU variety of gulags have shut down and now I hear Bethel (the subject of Alexia Parks' book, An American Gulag, and WWASP are both facing class actions.

Those are some of the facts. I'm leaving out a LOT, just for brevity. I know you're already tired and bored and I don't want to try you!

In the course of all the forgoing, including the skipped parts, we've managed to outrank the help for troubled parents industry in the search engines with practically $0 investment.

That's the nice advantage we have over the opposition. They have to continually shell out bucks and effort to force their propaganda. We, on the other hand, have nothing to hide and no need to control the information. Plus, there's the added milage some of us get from just the sheer joy of being able to carry out some of those thousands of Bizarro World conversations whe had to endure in group, only this time we get to drag the sadistic lunatics out into the more commonly accepted reality.

Couple of problems keep cropping up. One, we are an unusually hostile, paranoid and trucculant crowd. It's frustrating as hell sometimes, but it seems to be part of the debacle that we'll just have to deal with. Peace out!

Another significant problem that I don't think too many people really expected to be such a problem has been that trying to find people in positions of legal authority over these facilities and who actually give a shit, or even believe what we tell them, has been about damned near impossible most of the time. In most cases, the program ppl have already established cozy relationships with regulators and other legal and moral authorities long before anyone on our side ever hears about the places.

IOW, the problem is not that these little, individual groups are getting away with something and all we have to do is rat them out. The problem is that our society actually condones these practices, when you get right down to it.

So the solution is going to have to address that. It's all about education. There's just no telling how much impact something like a letter to an editor, a visit with your state or federal rep or a social worker, activist organization w/ sympathy for our cause or some other random act of RAMPANT talking out in group will have or has had.

It's sort of like what Treebeard said. It takes a very, very long time to talk all this out. I think we've almost finished saying good morning. Now it's time to find out the names of some of the folks we've just said good morning to so that we can properly introduce ourselves.

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark.  The real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.  
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2003, 02:09:00 PM »
Thank you G.
I guess I am just trying to find my part in this revolution.  I see that the war against the war on drugs is not going to be won overnight.  I see that this cause may be won over time and in small successions.
I did try to act on some insticts that I thought would prove fruitful but to no avail.  I am just looking for the next intelligent move to make on my part that will help the cause.
Unfortunately, being Irish born sort of makes me feel that when someone spits in your face the best was to get back is to spit back.  I am not certain if physical violence is the answer, this always seems to produce the wrong solution.  So I'm stuck with letter writing and protesting and speaking out instead of balls out revolution against powers that are stronger than myself.  
The funny thing is that it has always been this way, so I am no worse off than when I came here.
Peace peace.
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2005, 01:04:00 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2005, 11:36:00 AM »
Just a thought as I begin reading things here.  Is being taught to follow the laws of safe driving, to not place your hand on a hot stove, to not yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater or basic rules for social interaction a form of brainwashing?
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2005, 11:40:00 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2005, 12:24:00 PM »
dont forget a day before samanthas story was aired on montel Mel Sembler resigned as amabssador to Italy coincidence? and lets not forget Kim had an entire college campus black list Miller and lets not forget that I think Marti Rich and Mike Fucked Miller in Bankruptsy Court. And lets not forget. Ginger w/her Forum gave us all a place to come and bitch cry seek info ect... And her forum has helped parents make better decisions about sending their kids away. Oh yeah who else. Hmmmm
It seems the people that say nothing is getting done actualy haven't done anythiny themselves. Now don't get your panties in a twist but if something needs to be done and you know how to do it then go do it. Get off the board and go outside and do something.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2005, 02:25:00 PM »
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If you really want to push the legal system to work for you, you can:
File suite in General District Court to force the release of treatment records or to force Straight Inc., or what remains of Straight Inc., to disclose the disposition of your treatment records.  
 
Your best bet is to place a request with the General District Court Clerks Office or file suite to force the representing body (the lawyer or law firm) which represented Straight Inc. to disclose the disposition of your treatment records.  You will need to find out what firm represented Straight Inc. interests in you local area.  Straight Inc had a General Counsel of some kind so you will have go that route.
 
I took my records from Straight before I left staff.  From what I have been told treatment records from Straight Springfield were left in file boxes in the building after Straight Springfield closed.  The building was open (big hole in the wall) so anyone could have taken/stolen what they wanted.  I remember that Straight Springfield maintained all previous records including homes assignments and staff meeting notes.
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