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[Anonymous]

Well Spring Creek Lodge saw this post that i made and cut off all ties with me and my boyfriend. His mom also refused to have any communication with me, and says that she has read all the negative things about this program and still feels its right for him to be there. A lot of you were asking why he was sent there. It wasnt drugs, he doesnt do drugs. He gets passing grades. Hes not in a gang. It because he got me pregnant. He wants to take care of the baby with me and take responsibility for what happend. When he found out that I was pregnant he immediatly started looking for a job. And were going to do our best to have a good future for us and our baby. Well when he finally told is mother she got really angry. Any mother would be. So she kicked him out of her house and made him live with his dad. He was there for a week and then he got tookin away. During this time she would say things like "i wish this baby would just despire" and numous other rude comment about me and the baby. His mom told me that she is more important then my baby. That Mike deserves better then me and the life im going to live. I truly want to be a good mother for my baby and I want it to have a father. I dont know what to do.

[Anonymous]

SCL employees read this forum? LOL That is freakin' hilarious.

Does your boyfriends parents have a lot of money? Can they afford to spend 4k a month for 1-2 years?

If so, your boyfriend will not be back for a very long time. Also, don't be surprised if he talks about weird things.. cults, brainwashing, levels, bullshit, etc.. .because thats all there is at SCL. Bullshit.

It's a prison for kids. You know that. For kids that haven't committed any crimes, other than not fit the cookie cutter lives their parents layed out for them. It's really sad.

He will get out eventually, but honestly, he will never be free until he is 18. The program brainwahses the parents. Really. Even when he graduates, which is not easy and takes a long time, he will be on home contract. Which will most definitely include NOT seeing you.. at least it sounds like that.


Why not hit his parents up for money? Might get him out of the program quicker. Since he got you pregnant, and they are choosing to have him put in private prison, and not help you out financially, it sure makes them liable one would think. I'd seriously talk to your own parents about somehow getting money from his parents. He should be supporting you, as he wants to, its the right thing to do. His parents are performing an injustice. It needs to be righted.

 I wish you well in your journey.

[iluvmike]

Yup they read it.... and if they didnt have any thing to hide why would they get so mad that i was on this. Well thanks....

[Anonymous]

Either Mike has to pay or his parents do. Until that baby turns 18.

[Anonymous]

Loser parents.  Ruining their son and his child's life.  Way to go Grandma and Grandpa.  You should be ashamed.

To the mother:  Can you find a lawyer who can advise you on financial support while you are pregnant and after the baby is born?

Do you have medical insurance?

[Anonymous]

On 2005-08-24 11:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Well Spring Creek Lodge saw this post that i made and cut off all ties with me and my boyfriend. His mom also refused to have any communication with me, and says that she has read all the negative things about this program and still feels its right for him to be there. A lot of you were asking why he was sent there. It wasnt drugs, he doesnt do drugs. He gets passing grades. Hes not in a gang. It because he got me pregnant. He wants to take care of the baby with me and take responsibility for what happend. When he found out that I was pregnant he immediatly started looking for a job. And were going to do our best to have a good future for us and our baby. Well when he finally told is mother she got really angry. Any mother would be. So she kicked him out of her house and made him live with his dad. He was there for a week and then he got tookin away. During this time she would say things like "i wish this baby would just despire" and numous other rude comment about me and the baby. His mom told me that she is more important then my baby. That Mike deserves better then me and the life im going to live. I truly want to be a good mother for my baby and I want it to have a father. I dont know what to do."

Your boyfriend is not the first kid to be sent to a WWASPS facility for the same reason.

Perhaps you can post on one of the anti-wwasps boards started by former students who can help put you in touch with others who have been through this?

Maybe someone can help you get a lawyer to help you communicate with your baby's father?

This does not seem legal ... don't give up~~

[BuzzKill]

I believe pregnant teen age girls can be emancipated - in other words - they can petition a court to free them from parental authority. This of corse also means the parents are no longer responsible for the teen's welfare - So, I am not exactly advocating this - BUT, Maybe, the father of a child to be, has the same right.
Maybe call some child protective service folks and see if they can help you free you baby's father; Maybe they could direct you to an attorney who can help -
I'm just thinking, if you could get before a judge and tell your story he may well emancipate the boy (assuming the young man would want to go that way) so that he could be a father to his child.
You all are very young - it is a shame that his parents can't see the over riding need to be forgiving and supportive. Sure they are upset - but a baby is not a disaster. The timing could have been better - but it wasn't - so now they have a gran child. I hope they come around soon and I hope you'll be able to find it in your heart to forgive them when they do. I hope this situation changes for the better, for everyone concerned.

[iluvmike]

Im not really concerned with getting money from him and his family. I have a source of income myself because i do work and save all my money. Also my family wants to help me. So we'll see about getting child support from them when the baby comes. And yes I have medical insurance and my mom already checked and it will cover everthing regarding the pregnancy.

[iluvmike]

Thanks you guys for the support and advice i really do appreciate it.

[Antigen]

NP, I guess it's a nice outlet for some of us to be able to give a little supporive nudge where there was none for us when we were young. Sort of a corollary to some of the more venomous stuff we never could voice back than.

A friend of mine who reads but does not post here had another suggestion. If you wind up talking to lawyers about this, and it looks asif you might, ask about a writ of habeas corpus in his home jurisdiction.

The legislature is to society as a physician is to the patient. If a physician ignored side effects of medications like today's legislators ignore the side effects of their legislation, the physician would be accused of malpractice. I accuse today's legislators (with rare exception) of legislative malpractice. Many of the ills that are so obvious in our society are a direct result of previous legislation. Their solution? More laws!
-- John A. Bennett, DO

[Deborah]

Woops posted to the wrong thread.
[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2005-08-24 20:47 ]

[Anonymous]

I personally only know of 2 children who were ever on Ritalin or are on Ritalin currently. I don't know of anybody under the age of 18 on antidepressents. Where are all these supposed drugged children? They sure aren't in my area. And aren't there some therapeutic facilities who don't allow children on drugs or try to wean them off of them? I am not so sure this is a rampant as these reports suggest.

[Anonymous]

Check with your neighborhood Public School Nurse: you will be shocked at how many kids she dispensed these drugs to on a daily basis. LOTS  and LOTS of kids are sitting in classroom drugged to the hilt daily. Signed: A Public School Teacher.