'Get used to it. That's what threads are like, people say what they want to say and don't have to stay "on topic" '
thanks for pointing this out but really, i don't care if people talk about a myriad subjects - my comment in THIS case ONLY related to the aforementioned and beaten to death remarks coupling straight-causation and use. every piece of what i was saying actually helped me to get a grip on my own situation a few years ago, which is why i was passing this on, not to criticize how long it took for someone to get over things, OR about their drug use over all. perhaps i should have said that, but i didn't think i had to; most people write from their personal travels, don't they?
anyway, since it seems to be required, here's the explanation. for ages, i was stuck in this line of thinking that the program was the root cause of every response i had to people, work, drugs etc but it isn't! yeah sometimes i was drinking or smoking whatever when i was depressed about the program, my loss of life, nightmares, fears, rage, or when i didn't want to think about any of it, but it was not having been there that MADE me use again. as you say, the typed medium is tough to discern true meanings in, and the real goal there was that when i started to objectify my own use, i enjoyed it again because i wasn't using it as a related item to straight trauma ie 'the only way i can cope with this is... '
AND the comment about counselling falls under the same category of 'meant to be helpful'. i have had a few friends benefit from talking to someone qualified (tho' it often takes running through a few to find one who fits) but each of them had to pick a different counsellor to the others based on preference of style. personally, i have never been able to touch counselling as i simply can not approach it for my own reasons pre- as well as post-. HOWEVER, in my case, i have found that the objective views from others, and taking what helps from these boards has put me in touch with where to draw these lines with the past. this is what i was passing on. when people say things bluntly, i look at them, take what applies, and leave the rest. if it doesn't apply who fucking cares?
"When you talk about the things people have to say about Straight..."
i wasn't talking about "people", i was referring to ONE thread and what SEEMED to be an unhelpful correlation as mentioned. what I don't see is why people who read these comments extrapolate it to be saying a generalized gang-bang on everybody's issues or anyone speaking about their repercussions. if i didn't think that responses and ongoing issues occur (which BTW i did acknowledge in my post) i sure as shit wouldn't be reading this board off and on this late in MY OWN life in the hereafter, would I?
lastly in regards to the mental health part. no one is denying - least of all myself - that behaviour modifying methodologies can be the cause of, or at least one of the contributing factors to, such mental health related issues as ptsd, depression etc. this never came up as it was nothing to do with my perspective or what i was making a comment about... or, in fact, to the original bent of the postings. however, though i don't see how this entire line of comments relates to anything i was saying, i will still mention that schizophrenia is a chemically-related illness that can be triggered or brought on by stress, but is not caused by it, NOR is it the only cause of the emergence of symptoms. people can develop schizophrenia from childhood until very late in life - even up to 50+ yrs old. it is a lifelong and terrible illness and OBVIOUSLY i would not be so callous or stupid as to tell someone their suffering should be over if they have this to deal with. in case you hadn't noticed tho'... i'm not talking to that person here, AND i wasn't speaking to mental illness at all. as it happens, depression, schizophrenia, suicide and OCDs are things i am very familiar with, again for various personally related reasons.
