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[Anonymous]

I'm having a real hard time. I spent 2 years in Straight in the early 80's. I've never dealt with the rage that I have towards Newton/Cassian and gang, ever. There is no real way to deal with it either, unless Newton was in front of me, and I could tell him exactly how I felt. But he's a coward too, so now he hides behind his fake priest's collar and fake church.

 I've been able to get thru life, with the rage built up inside. The only way I know how to do this is with self medication. Smoking mother nature has provided me with a pain-free stomach, and I have fended off ulcers too as a result. Alcohol helps me forget about my rage towards Straight. I don't like to drink, but it's legal, right. I am a total non-violent pacifist. I've never struck anyone my whole entire life, but have been struck many times by ex-girlfriends for absolutely no reason, except for their impairment and/or lack of better judgement. I also have a college degree, and a professional license. I'm loving, caring, thoughtful and courteous, despite my dark rage and contempt for Straight which is hidden deep inside.

But now, I was arrested at a rock concert for smoking a joint, and now face probation. If I fail probation, I guess I go to jail. This is inconcievable to me in this day and age, considering that at the concert, anyone could buy 32oz "tubs" of beer all day long, and get as legally hammered as they want! How many lives does alcohol and tobacco take every single day, but you can buy them by the truckloads at any corner store in America! The law MUST be changed, and marijuana MUST be decriminalized. If not, than the only rational thing to do is outlaw alcohol and tobacco as well. Think about it. The studies prove it, and Canada is finally recognizing it.

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles/ ... nalize.htm

If I fail probation, I'm not going to jail, one way or the other. I'm not going to be subjected to that once AGAIN in my life. I would rather be a fugitive in Canada, or put a bullet in my head, than risk being "bitch fodder" for some lonely inmate. Not gonna happen.  So thanks Miller Newton. Thanks for everything. I'm trying to avoid the fantasy of walking up to Newton's fake church on Madiera Beach, and after I've asked him to publically apologize to all of us who have suffered his injustices, then blowing my head off on his front lawn. Then maybe he would understand the enormity of his deeds.  I won't, but like I said, I'm not going to jail either.

Only God can play God!   Look what you have done to us Newton/Cassian! My heart cries out for us all.  I hope that the rest of you are in a better place than I am.

Please help change the laws. Email your reps today!!

PEACE One and All.

[Antigen]

Damn! Sorry to hear about your troubles. This too will pass, though. Just remember that. And you certainly want to hang around and see it live and in person when the drug warriors finally are forced to vacate the field of battle. It'll happen eventually.

I think the biggest problem we have to deal with is going to turn out to be the source of our solution. The problem is that the people who support the drug war are absolutely true believers. And, for the most part (not all of them) they're also fine, hard working hero types.

But they're also among the most agrieved victims of these policies. And, little by little, they're starting to realize it and to say so. Check out http://leap.cc/ If you could get these guys to come address your local Rotary club, I think that would be a good deal more effective than anything you or I could say to anyone.

A student burst into his office.  "Professor Stigler, I don't believe I deserve this F you've given me."  To which Stigler replied, "I agree, but unfortunately it is the lowest grade the University will allow me to award."
--Professor Stigler

[Anonymous]

I hear ya loud and clear, OP.  I have found benadryl to be effective for the some of the same things i smoke the weed for. Mother fucking SUCKS that you are on probation. If I were you I would look into some professional solutions such as purchased piss, not that I know anything about it. Get some pro advice on the matter.

What the fuck person in this country thinks any god damn other person but this one has the right to decide whether or not he can smoke MARIJUANA? Raise your hands, busybodies of the USA.

And fuck the fuck lot of you who don't give a flying fuck about a class action lawsuit. Why do you think it's so easy for the Straight copy-cats to still be in business? Why do you think people are still bent after twenty years? There has been no closure, no redress, no public excoriation of the True Child Abusing Criminals. No apology, no fund for anyone's motherfukkin health care.

I personally would pick B.C. Ex-patriation is worth considering. It is also worth considering impeaching every last motherfukkin politician. It is worth considering slashing the tires of every stupid flag waving proud law abiding citizen who thinks it's their motherfukkin right to tell me what the fuck I can do that is none of anyone's god damn business but my own.

[starry-eyed pirate]

i understand your concerns about the law.  i live under their threats every day.  And i was in straight too and live with that every day.  If this is your first offense you probably won't have to go to jail.  i don't know what state your in, but i was busted in PA in '99 for D.U.I, possession of paraphenalia(my pipe), possession of a small amount of marajuana and resisting arrest.  They had to hold me down and mase(sp?) me pretty hard to get me cuffed and into the back of their police car.  That was my first arrest, not countin' my juvenile record.  They ended up droppin' everything but the D.U.I. and i got 12 months of probation out of it.  They also suspended my license for 30 days, and made me pay some fines and court costs(approx. $1,800.oo)  The whole time i was on probation i was only piss tested once at the beginning, after that initial piss test i never got tested again. i did more drugs during that year then i had ever done before.  The thing is when you go in to meet your p.o. for the first time, to act like you learned your lesson.  It would be smart of you to give the pretense of respect by dressing decently.   i think it would be wise to quit smokin' pot for about 30 days before you are sentenced.  That way you know that your urine will be clean.  THC is stored in the fat so the more fat you have on you the longer it takes to clean out your system.  If you are thin you could clean yourself out in 20 days, or maybe even less.  i don't trust any of the detoxifiers that you can buy at G.N.C. or any of the other health stores.  They don't work. Some people say you can drink a gallon or 2 of golden seal the night before a piss test or just tons of water.  i don't really know how well those techniques work.  Maybe someone with experience could comment on those techniques.  i've heard that cranbberry juice is a natural THC detoxifier. Don't go in there lookin' like a punk or a hood. Look him/her in the eye and be humble, but don't volunteer any information. Answer any questions that might be asked of you concernin' how your job is goin' or how your relationships with your spouse and kids are goin'.  Always put the best spin possible on your answers.  Always play it cool.  The first impression you make will go a long way toward keepin' your p.o. from makin' things difficult for you.  Best of luck.

[Antigen]

Also, in the spirit of 'packing your bags' for this new trip, you might try and find some actual respect and compassion for the poor sob who's job it will be to take you to task for this bullshit. No, really. I would imagine most POs are a lot like most teachers. They know that most of their job is bullshit, they're just going through the motions and, likely, privately searching for a better way. Maybe not. But it can't hurt to hold out a little hope and give it a shot, so long as you're not counting on it to the point where you'll be crushed if you're dealt anothre mindless dweeb.

OTOH, we all have special training in the proper handling of mindless dweebs. Use it! God knows we paid dearly for that tutelage.

Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
--Annie Dillard, "Pilgrim at Tinker Creek"

[groovy1634]

i understand your troubles.....i got busted w/ a bag of weed in 2003. i was put on 12 months of probation....i tested clean for 7 months of it....let me tell you, probation was the worst...nothing like some nasty old woman crouching down looking on while you try to piss in a cup...some months i would be there all day trying to piss....it was humiliating.....well, i failed a drug test 7 months into it and got sent to jail for 13 days......man, if knew that was all it would have taken in the first place, i would have gone to jail in the first place.....not to mention the $6,000.00 i spent on my worthless attorney....hell, i would have gotten the same deal, if not better, using a public defender.....probation is just one big fund raiser for whatever county you are in.....

hope you feel better soon

[Anonymous]

I guess the lesson here is, dont use deugs.  DUH
Are you from the Valley??? :grin:

[starry-eyed pirate]

Well... i think the real lesson here is that the government is a racket, bent on exploiting its' "citizens".

[Dr Fucktard]

Whatever the case, you druggies should damn well know better by now! Have you forgotten all that Straight taught you?? When the HELL are you going to learn that drug use will eventually lead you down the slippery slope to INSANITY, JAIL, and/or DEATH?? What is it going to take???

The StraightMobile? will be out and about this week.

Now, you can come along the easy way, or the hard way....your choice. :wave:

[starry-eyed pirate]

"Have you forgotten all that str8 taught you ?"

No, not at all, Dr. Fucktard.  Before i entered Str8 i had many reasons to suspect that all authority was simply oppression.  The public school system is just a brainwash instituion, producin' slaves to prop up a corrupt government. Str8 taught me that my instincts were right all along.  That Americas' democracy is really a thinly disguised form of fascism.  When i enterd str8 i learned the real values of the society that we live in.  Sure, you're free, as long as you do what we say and believe what we tell you.  All the great things that i was taught about America as a child turned out to be lies.  

So thanks for your concern Dr. Fucktard, but i think i'll pass.  And also you might wanna keep your straight mobile outta my neighborhood cause if i see it around here i'm gonna hit it hard with my Anarchy tags.  Fair warnin' brother.

Peace.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-08-16 09:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I guess the lesson here is, dont use deugs.  DUH

Are you from the Valley??? :grin: "

No, the lesson is don't get caught using drugs, asshole.  Are you from Teaneck?  :roll:

[Antigen]

Goovy, how did you get busted?

The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
--Hermann Goering, Luftwaffe commander, sentenced to death at Nuremberg

[groovy1634]

found it in my purse...a night in jail and $1,000.00 bond later, i went home....just to wait 5 months to go to court....a huge pain in the ass, really....

i am not proud of this, but it just made me that much more of a marijuana advocate...

in hind sight, my experience just proved how rediculous our pot laws really are and just how much money i shelled out for the lovely state of Texas.
 








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[Antigen]

But how did cops gain access to your purse? I'm really curious. How much caution is reasonable and how much is just paranoia?

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[Anonymous]

On 2005-08-21 10:11:00, Antigen wrote:

"But how did cops gain access to your purse? I'm really curious. How much caution is reasonable and how much is just paranoia?"

and that is the six million dollar question!  :lol: