Concern for a "student"

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On 2005-08-14 08:50:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Dysfunction is not a parent Anonymous, he is a former employee of at least two other TBS's who either had a bad experience working at those places or doesn't like the industry anymore, or cannot work for facilities anymore due to his criminal record. His experience with facilities would be from an employee's perspective. He also has a history of getting quite ugly and condescending with his language towards others who choose to disagree with him or who criticize his point of view. So don't take it personally, it's just his Modus Operandi."

WHAT?  Facts?  You're out in left field now.

I think you'll say anything for a referral fee or free month for the kid you failed to raise.  

Get a life.

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[Anonymous]

He can't possibly be an adult- if so, he truly needs to get a life.  I agree that he was probably fired from some programs and has a personal axe to grind.
P.S. My kid did not go to SUWS.

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Two suckers commiserating over their failures.

Both trolling this message board incessantly.  Both abject failures as parents.  Both incapable of raising a child and telling others to get a life.

Pathetic.

[Anonymous]

I am neither a parent with a child in a program nor a consultant. I am also not an employee of any program. I stated facts as you have presented them yourself on this topic and other topics here at the Fornits site. Facts? Yes they are facts, Dysfunction Junction. Facts that you stated about yourself.

[Anonymous]

And you know we are failures as parents HOW? You know us?  Our kids?  Our histories?  Nope- just more name calling by the moronic Dysfunctional mis-fit.

[Anonymous]

Fact One: This post shows Dysfunction Junction worked at Daytop at one time. It also shows that he had a felony conviction and prison sentance.

Fact Two: He no longer works in the TBS field. According to him he got disillusioned with the industry. I suspect he isn't allowed to be employed by them with a previous felony conviction as most TBS's do background checks for most of their employees usually.

Fact Three: He is an adult.


 

Dysfunction Junction
A regular around here

Joined: 2005-03-06
Posts: 302
From: New York
 daytop '95
Posted: 2005-03-09 05:44:00  
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 hey angela,

good to hear your news. george always was a bright guy. he pulled himself up by his bootstraps after about a 10 year bid for armed robbery and a terrible drug habit. i always figured he would rise above and go beyond.

i was not there for the incident you mentioned and lanza was still "acting" director when i left.

i have departed the mental health field for good. the system is just soooo broken that it's hard to do good work for one's clients. i worked for a while doing mental health claims reviews for Wellcare (an HMO), but found the same sort of problems there. i was told always to initially deny coverage and fight it out to pay as little as possible. again, patients being cheated out of care they desperately need. it's sickening.

i am now a mcse (microsoft certified systems engineer) and working on an MBA and work as an engineer for a major player in the computed radiography field.

if your friend speaks to george, please have her pass on my regards, ok?

i wonder if i know who your friend might be? in any case, good for her!

take care,
steve

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Dysfunction-

Please refrain from using words such as Retarded as the Mother of a now adult man living with Autism I find it offensive even ingnorant on your part.  If I am mistaken then I apologize for miss reading the post, but frankly I don't believe I did at any rate, to use abusive words is childish and ignorant.

For someone who claims to be as educated as you are and very well may be to use the language you have used, to say you worked in the Mental Health field and respond to people in the very hostile and abusive manner in which you do, leads one to believe the several reasons as to why I personally am thankful you are no longer in the field.  Pretty Scary world out there to think that someone who still uses words like retarded and responds in abusive ways could have even worked in the field of Mental Health, as this type of behavior is part of the problem not the solution.  

Please excuse my anger fellow posters but really the language in describing people can be offensive, is archiach, and frankly ignorant in this matter.

Andrea[ This Message was edited by: PFRR on 2005-08-14 09:35 ]

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"who either had a bad experience working at those places or doesn't like the industry anymore"

This is your OPINION.  What is a fact is that I worked for a facility that is held out as one of the very best in the industry and I saw horrible child abuse going on there daily.

I saw parents pay $4000.00 per month to have their kid berated, humiliated, starved, sleep deprived, forced into labor, beaten and worse.  THOSE are the facts.

It's not that I don't "like" the industry anymore.  It's that the "industry" is full of people who abuse children for money.

The difference between you and me is that I call it what it is - abusive - and you actively recruit others to subject their children to this horror.

Therein lies the true difference between us.  You ACTIVELY ADVOCATE the abuse of children.

Frame it up however you like.  You're simply an accessory to the crimes commited against helpless children.  Plain and simple.

I also don't believe for one second that you're not a program parent. If you didn't have a VESTED INTEREST in supporting these places, your vision would be clear.  You exhibit all of the symptoms...

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It would probably be helpful to people if you would be specific when saying you in your posts, I myself could not nor would not even want to begin to think what is going on in your head, or assume anything.  There are a lot of you's out there!

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On 2005-08-14 09:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Fact One: This post shows Dysfunction Junction worked at Daytop at one time. It also shows that he had a felony conviction and prison sentance.



Fact Two: He no longer works in the TBS field. According to him he got disillusioned with the industry. I suspect he isn't allowed to be employed by them with a previous felony conviction as most TBS's do background checks for most of their employees usually.



Fact Three: He is an adult. "

Fact Four:  TWO treatment facilities where you folks like to send your kids hired me with full knowledge of my legal standing.  I disclosed to them, but they never did a background check and had not the slightest care nor hesitation to hire me.

Again, you're spouting, but have the facts wrong.

And, apparently, you think it's just fine for "most" places to do background checks on "most" of their employees "usually."

Sounds like your version of the industry really has its act together.  You've killed your own argument, as you've done many times before.

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-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-08-14 09:41 ]

[Anonymous]

Why would a parent have a vested interest in supporting programs?  No one wants a family to have to send their child to a program. However, if there is a need and all other options have been exhausted, there are parents who have been through it who can help and support the parents who are just beginning the process. Our goal as parents is to support each other and counter the abuse you inflict on innocent parents who mistakenly come to this site for information and advice.  These parents should not be made to feel ashamed or neglectful as parents because it is necessary to seek treatment outside the home for their kids.
Many of us have experiences with programs that are supportive and in no way abusive.  
You, on the other hand, take your anger and your narrow little life and use it to hurt and insult others.

[Anonymous]

Most would be teachers, counselors, etc....some not being subjected to background checks might be receptionists or kitchen employees.

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"Abused parents."  Now that's rich.

Throw another pity party for yourselves while neglecting your kids needs.  Typical.

The vested interest comes from the free months you get from referring others who sign contracts.  It's also a psychological and financial investment you made by paying tons of money out to these places.  Nobody wants to admit getting snookered.  It's painful, and I understand that.

I'll help you on your road to recovery.  Repeat after me:  "It's hard to admit, but I was suckered out of lots of money.  I was sold a bill of goods.  I didn't do what was necessary to raise my kid.  I copped out.  I'm making a commitment not to do it again, nor to advise others to do the same."

See, it's not that hard.

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On 2005-08-14 09:47:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Most would be teachers, counselors, etc....some not being subjected to background checks might be receptionists or kitchen employees. "

So it's just fine to have a child rapist as a cook or janitor, just not a counselor or teacher?

You're really out there...

[Anonymous]

How could you have disclosed your previous conviction to two former employers Dysfunction when you said yourself in this post to never tell?



Dysfunction Junction
A regular around here

Joined: 2005-03-06
Posts: 304
From: New York
 Posted: 2005-05-19 06:30:00  
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 I personally would advise never to tell. Nothing good can come from it. Only REAL possibility is getting terminated on the spot.

DEFINITELY don't tell, even when asked.

The laws are all fucked up, yes. I ended up getting hit with 1-3 in NYS system for my first and only pop - no sale involved. However, I was CHARGED with A Class felony which carries 25-life in NY.

If I weren't a great dealer making lots of money, I could never have come up with the shoebox full of cash required for my lawyer's $25,000 retainer and $1000/court day fees and the subsequent dropping of the A, B, and C Class felonies for which I was charged.

I call it "Capital Punishment." If you have capital, you don't get punished...
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