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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2005, 06:25:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-09 08:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Allow me to preface to say that Miller Newton is very much my adversary.  I was in a KIDS program and can never forget the sight, sound, nor smell of him and the wench he calls his wife.  I am not coming to the defense of this bastard, I am only asking a question of those in STRAIGHT to satisfy my own pesky curiousity.  



I have often wondered "why miller?" (and "why NOT Miller" is a very good answer!).  I understand his involvement in STRAIGHT and everything, but he was associated with KIDS for well over a decade after leaving STRAIGHT.  Those of you that personally remember and resent this asshole for his involvement in your program must be older than I, but I believe there are also a lot of ex-straights that never even knew what this guy looked like, nevermind is meglomaniacally and overtly abusive personality.  I am curious why those of you from STRAIGHT don't want to hang Sembler by his balls? Or even the director of your particular STRAIGHT?  I hate Miller simply because I KNEW him through and through and hated the fabric that comprised his existance.  Do some ex STRAIGHTs feel the same about Mel Sembler?  Was he has intimately involved in the day to day routine?  Do those of you that want to make a pinata out of the man, remember him?  Did he touch YOUR junk liberally?  Just curious, thanks in advance :nworthy:  for your reply, fuck you  ::both:: in advance if you decide to give me shit about this question, just asking..."


Virgil Miller Newton is one fucked-up, sadistic son of a bitch.  I had the horror of that sick shitbird running my life in a worse than your worst ever nightmare-bad-acid-trip  teen torture faccility in St. Petersburg.  He was seen in group frequently, most every day he would make an appearance to overlook the abuse sessions personally.  He had a "hands on" approach to his work, if ya know what I mean.  I hate that putrid slimeshit of a man and everything he stands for.  Perhaps he has attained symbolic status to a lot of his victims.  Sembler, although in the big picture organizationally and financially, was more of a faceless bureaucrat to the average inmate.  Kind of like Hitler, I don't think he ever actually visited a conceentration camp other than to attend open meetings when his spawn were subjected to the torture (proving that scum like  Sembler eat their young).  I could be wrong about that, maybe he walked into groups frequently to get his kicks before he had to fly to Australia or wherever.  I couldn't tell you how many times he was at the actual facilities, but it was never anywhere near the time Newton spent there.

If by "junk" you mean "brain", yes, Virgil touched my junk liberally.  Miller Newton was the Main Goon and Torturer In Chief at Straight, Inc., where he added his own personal kook pop-psychology doctrine to the daily regimen of abuse.  Like a drug-warring Dr. Mengele, he ran his own brand of pseudomedical and pseudopsychological pseudospirituality expiraments on unfortunate inmates frequently.  Woe to the Newcomer that Dr. Newton "took an interest in".  

Just my theory on why Virgil bashing seems more Sembler hate, or at least more intense.

By the way, I think that bad as Straight was, KIDS had to be worse.  No one ever got held in group for thirteen years at Straight.  Also, Virgil and Ruthie had no one to answer to other than their fuckwitted, conscienceless selves.  Given such power, Newton could continue his abuse for longer periods of time, and cultivate his personality cult more deeply.  I have asked here before if anybody was in both programs, and compare them, but having been subjected for thirteen months to the whims of the  psychotic child-abuser that ran both places, I think I can make a fairly accurate guess what KIDS was like.

Now give up some hate for Virgil........
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2005, 06:59:00 PM »
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I wonder what other STRAIGHTS he made an appearance at...

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Couldn't tell you for sure but it wouldn't suprise me if he visted them ALL.  I would what staffer got stuck putting him up for the night?

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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2005, 07:10:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-09 15:36:00, Don Smith wrote:

He did visit the Cincinnati building once that I know of. I was on third phase at the time.
Don"


What a shit-a-brick fest that must have been for the Cincy staffers, "Miller is coming, Miller is coming!!!!"
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2005, 07:57:00 PM »
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 Personally speaking from someone that knew Miller Newton, worked next to him, and spent years hating him, I don't believe he got in the church business to "help" or fuck with people.  I think his current line of work is solely about personal redemption, he knows what he did wrong and I think he is struggling to right his wrong.  Good luck ya old fuck. :wave: "


I called him at (727)392-3437 to ask him if he cared to apologize to me for his role in Straight, but Ruthie hung up on me.  I don't think he's trying to redeem himself at all--- he has been the same arrogant prick whenever he's been in the public eye since, whether at his bankruptcy trial, his manner at the zoning hearing, or his mayoral campaign.  He is a megalamaniac beyond repair.  If he's trying to right his wrongs ( a futile attempt for someone as vile as he) he has yet to indicate it to his victims, and he has had ample opportunity.
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2005, 10:46:00 PM »
I have heard that Miller Newton's lawyer reads this site. Now THERE'S a Devil's Advocate for you.

Message to Miller Newton's lawyer:
Surely you have heard everything, you know the facts about the Lulu Corter case, and so on. How can you look yourself in the mirror every morning, knowing you are working FOR an extreme child abuser, and not against him? That is an evil contract you have signed. Helping a child abuser. What a damn shame, and a waste of anything good you were ever taught, or any ideals you once had.
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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2005, 06:59:00 AM »
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"I have heard that Miller Newton's lawyer reads this site. Now THERE'S a Devil's Advocate for you.



Message to Miller Newton's lawyer:

Surely you have heard everything, you know the facts about the Lulu Corter case, and so on. How can you look yourself in the mirror every morning, knowing you are working FOR an extreme child abuser, and not against him? That is an evil contract you have signed. Helping a child abuser. What a damn shame, and a waste of anything good you were ever taught, or any ideals you once had."


Amen!
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2005, 09:36:00 AM »
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I called him at (727)392-3437 to ask him if he cared to apologize to me for his role in Straight, but Ruthie hung up on me.  I don't think he's trying to redeem himself at all--- he has been the same arrogant prick whenever he's been in the public eye since, whether at his bankruptcy trial, his manner at the zoning hearing, or his mayoral campaign.  He is a megalamaniac beyond repair.  If he's trying to right his wrongs ( a futile attempt for someone as vile as he) he has yet to indicate it to his victims, and he has had ample opportunity."


Of course he won't apologize to you on demand, we are druggies, remember?  It's all OUR fault.  In my opinion, his redemption is analagous to all those whom find religion behind prison bars.  He is not wanting to make "amends" to you personally, but I think he is attempting to show his worthless worth in another way, religion.
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2005, 12:29:00 PM »
No my junk was not liberally touched...or even slightly touched.
 I guess my 12 year old ass wasnt attractive enough for "The Clinician"  :rofl:
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2005, 01:54:00 PM »
He never touched your junk, but have you ever even seen the dude?  He never visited STRAIGHT Dallas as he was associated with KIDS at the time, correct?
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2005, 05:17:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-09 15:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

 I just wonder if had a counterpart that was the equivilant to what he was in KIDS to those of you that were in STRAIGHT.  What is a cult without a meglomaniacal cult leader, anyway?

Virgil was pretty much God and guru to the inmates of Straight and their families during his tenure as "Clinical Director".  I believe that the very personality cult he tried to foster around himself is one of the causes of his status as an icon of abuse at Straight.  Combine his naricissism with his acts of physical abuse against teens, particularly malnourished girls, and you've got a pretty viable candidate for a hated symbol of institutional child abuse.

 
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Miller Newton was the quintessential asshole that perpetuated the madness on a daily basis in my program.

Without a doubt he had that role in Straight during his tenure there.  He added his own quack philosophy of drug-treatment to the torture already in place at Straight so that he could sell more copies of his books and gush about being a noted authority on teen drug treatment. Never mind the fact that his book is so obviously full of half-baked, ludicrous notions.

 
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 I think his current line of work is solely about personal redemption, he knows what he did wrong and I think he is struggling to right his wrong.  Good luck ya old fuck. :wave: "


I think his new line of work is another way to satisfy his sick need to be deified by others.  According to the dogma of his particular sect of christianity, the priest actually becomes Christ during the communion ceremony.  What better way to reinforce his self-obsession and narcissism?
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2005, 06:37:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-10 15:25:00, Anonymous wrote:

  Miller Newton was the Main Goon and Torturer In Chief at Straight, Inc., where he added his own personal kook pop-psychology doctrine to the daily regimen of abuse.  Like a drug-warring Dr. Mengele, he ran his own brand of pseudomedical and pseudopsychological pseudospirituality expiraments on unfortunate inmates frequently.  


Yes! Mel Sembler=Hitler, Miller Newton=Dr. Mengele

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He added his own quack philosophy of drug-treatment to the torture already in place at Straight so that he could sell more copies of his books and gush about being a noted authority on teen drug treatment. Never mind the fact that his book is so obviously full of half-baked, ludicrous notions.

Have you ever read "Gone Way Down" or any of his other crap?  It is SO ridiculous!  Full of Stepcult myths and toughlove fables, and a downright hatred for children.  How Miller Newton could pull off his impersonation of a drug treatment guru for adolescents is really amazing.  Lotsa gullible people out there. I guess P.T. Barnum was right.

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"I personally don't mind where the hatred for the man comes from. He deserves every bad vibe out there. He and his wife are the 2 sickest, meanest, most vile people I have ever known. If there is a bandwagon of hate, then let it lead right to his front door. Act soon, before the bankruptcy courts decide it's not his front door anymore."


I've gotta agree with you--I have never in my life met anyone more deserving of hatred.
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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2005, 06:47:00 PM »
Granted Miller is a prick and a half, etc.

My question I guess is more of how much of a role he played in your particular STRAIGHT location, was he there to visit, to lead raps, to check in?  Was he just a name from a far that one could only mention whilst stating the chain of command so that you were not "talking behind backs"?  

His stench was a part of my daily life on a daily basis in KIDS.  There are many here that have much to say about him.  I started this thread to ask as I was curious to learn from others that were in STRAIGHT (and not KIDS) how affiliated he was with you and your particular versions of syn-op hell.
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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2005, 08:01:00 PM »
Then perhaps it's protest time again.

Anyone up for it?

Nice little cookout and rounds with meeting the neighbors?

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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2005, 08:03:00 PM »
He was a part of my daily life late in my program in St. Pete.  I had the unfortunate experience of being on a "7th step refresher" and was again exposed to the asshole from hell.
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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2005, 08:05:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-11 17:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Then perhaps it's protest time again.



Anyone up for it?



Nice little cookout and rounds with meeting the neighbors?



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Sure!  I'd show up for it.  When?
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