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« Reply #2340 on: January 11, 2007, 10:56:07 PM »
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Thin skinned is not the issue, Ginger. Legal rights and remedies are. I have not been fired from a job, and it is libel to state that I have.
So you never worked as a whore either?  :question:

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« Reply #2341 on: January 11, 2007, 11:05:56 PM »
Oh man, that is so wrong!  :o

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« Reply #2342 on: January 11, 2007, 11:38:19 PM »
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Deborah- No, that is not libel because your identities are not known. Mine is.  You can't slander or libel a fictitious name.  There has to be harm or the strong potential for harm.


AFAIK you have to prove you were actually harmed.  Tell me if i'm wrong on that.

Karen.  Look.  People hate you here.  I tried to negotiate and smooth things over and things might have subsided until you started publicly whining about libel on this site.

NO employer is going to read 160+ pages of Fornits and believe anything about you.  Good luck proving you were harmed by anything that was said here.  I doubt you could make a good case out of this.

Attempting to censor anything on the internet is utterly futile.  There is always an archive, always a copy. Once something is on the internet it DOES NOT DISSAPPEAR.  Period.

Let it go Karen.  Time and time again you respond to provocation.  You take the bait and you add to it, ensuring the conflict rages on and on and on.  That is why you are a lawyer and not a peacemaker.

Whether or not  RB's accusations are true or not (i cannot say either way.  I don't trust anybody), trying to shut him up is pointless and futile.  I think you know this.  The question remains:  If you know it is pointless to rattle your saber, why do you?

My guess?  You feed on conflict...  So do many others.  I don't expect this to end here, or for you to just turn the other cheek (ultimately the easiest way to end conflict), but i would hope you at least ask yourself why you feel the need to respond to things you know don't have a chance in hell of damaging you. The more you prolong it, the more you make an issue out of it, the larger the conflict will get.  You are making an issue out of nothing.  I only hope you know why you are doing it.

As I have said before.  I wash my hands of the issue.  Yes TSW fired the first shot but you knew it was going to happen.  My hope was that you would be mature/wise enough to ignore it.

I'm not blaming you, or anybody in this.  Ultimately, however, the only fault ever worth looking at is one's own.  It is the only person you have full control over (despite the 12 step cop-out of "it's all in god's hands(we weren't responsable)" to feel better about the guilt of past misdeeds).

You cannot change your past, but you can change your role in your future.  Without your role in this conflict, it cannot continue, you choose to prolong it.

As much as this post seems harsh please do not take offense.  I really do have best wishes for you and your family.

cheers,
Mike
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« Reply #2343 on: January 12, 2007, 09:17:47 AM »
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As I have said before. I wash my hands of the issue. Yes TSW fired the first shot but you knew it was going to happen. My hope was that you would be mature/wise enough to ignore it.


Well, this isn't exactly true.  Before there was a KareninDallas thread, Karen and Anne (from Minnesota, aka Ottawa5) had been badgering abuse victims of CEDU and other programs for months (actually over a year I believe).  The K.I.D. thread was simply a response of those who were fed up with the seriously fucked up, amoral anonymous posts by Karen and Annie.  They put the pieces together and fingerd the authors - accurately, I might add.  Once Amoral Annie and Karen were successfully ID'ed and exposed, the real fight began, replete with threats of lawsuits, etc.

What still sticks with me though, is the fact that seemingly normal people, when confident that they can maintain anonymity, show their true nature (due to the smug arrogance of feeling invulnerable to consequences), and it's usually disgusting and vile.  

This brings my attention to the programs, where the secrecy and complete control afforded to staff members lead them to verbally, emotionally, physically and sexually abuse their victims - they believe they will never be caught, so the true dark side comes out.  

Ask yourself, program parents, if you yourselves can be so utterly inhumane to victims over the internet, can you imagine how sick and twisted the behaviors of the people you hired to 'treat' your kid are when they know there is virtually no mechanism by which they can get caught and, if they do get caught, that they just move to another facility and start it all over again?  

Think about it.
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« Reply #2344 on: January 12, 2007, 11:46:55 AM »
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Quote from: ""Old Nick""
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Thin skinned is not the issue, Ginger. Legal rights and remedies are. I have not been fired from a job, and it is libel to state that I have.
So you never worked as a whore either?  :question:

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« Reply #2345 on: January 12, 2007, 11:48:05 AM »
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Nor can she change the fact that she is a friggin dumbshit.

 ::bwahaha::  ::bwahaha2::  ::ftard::  ::nod::  ::bangin::  :wave:  ::both::  ::both::  :rofl:  :evil:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :tup:
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« Reply #2346 on: January 12, 2007, 12:32:10 PM »
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As I have said before. I wash my hands of the issue. Yes TSW fired the first shot but you knew it was going to happen. My hope was that you would be mature/wise enough to ignore it.

Well, this isn't exactly true.  Before there was a KareninDallas thread, Karen and Anne (from Minnesota, aka Ottawa5) had been badgering abuse victims of CEDU and other programs for months (actually over a year I believe).  The K.I.D. thread was simply a response of those who were fed up with the seriously fucked up, amoral anonymous posts by Karen and Annie.  They put the pieces together and fingerd the authors - accurately, I might add.  Once Amoral Annie and Karen were successfully ID'ed and exposed, the real fight began, replete with threats of lawsuits, etc.

Oh that i know.  I was referring to the first shot after the new years "truce".

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What still sticks with me though, is the fact that seemingly normal people, when confident that they can maintain anonymity, show their true nature (due to the smug arrogance of feeling invulnerable to consequences), and it's usually disgusting and vile.  

This brings my attention to the programs, where the secrecy and complete control afforded to staff members lead them to verbally, emotionally, physically and sexually abuse their victims - they believe they will never be caught, so the true dark side comes out.  

Ask yourself, program parents, if you yourselves can be so utterly inhumane to victims over the internet, can you imagine how sick and twisted the behaviors of the people you hired to 'treat' your kid are when they know there is virtually no mechanism by which they can get caught and, if they do get caught, that they just move to another facility and start it all over again?  

Think about it.


Everybody has a dark side.  Only those who don't care about the welfare of others use anonymity as a shield.  It offers a sense of safety... freedom from consequence.  And as such, i give guest posts in general, very little respect.  The system works.

Cryptic isn't it.
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« Reply #2347 on: January 12, 2007, 12:38:54 PM »
If Karen applied as much energy to speaking out against WWASPS and other program she finds abusive I bet she could have helped a lot of kids over the past couple years. She seems like a smart lady, just on the wrong side of the battle is all.

*edit for those who dont recognize sarcasm... this is satire
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« Reply #2348 on: January 12, 2007, 12:40:10 PM »
Oh I wouldnt call her that.
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« Reply #2349 on: January 12, 2007, 12:40:50 PM »
We could use a few obsessive control freak parents on the anti program side...

*satire people, satire...
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« Reply #2350 on: January 12, 2007, 12:44:32 PM »
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We could use a few obsessive control freak parents on the anti program side...


*Slams head on keyboard*

so now they get it......
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« Reply #2351 on: January 12, 2007, 01:00:07 PM »
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Everybody has a dark side.  Only those who don't care about the welfare of others use anonymity as a shield.  It offers a sense of safety... freedom from consequence.  And as such, i give guest posts in general, very little respect.  The system works.

Cryptic isn't it.

There are many regulars here that are guilty of this.
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« Reply #2352 on: January 12, 2007, 01:02:03 PM »
What's your point? :D
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« Reply #2353 on: January 12, 2007, 01:04:58 PM »
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Everybody has a dark side.  Only those who don't care about the welfare of others use anonymity as a shield.  It offers a sense of safety... freedom from consequence.  And as such, i give guest posts in general, very little respect.  The system works.



I couldn't disagree more. Most of the useful information I find posted here is done so by anonymous posters dropping by to tell their story. TSW has thousands of posts and I don't take anything he says seriously. I dont really care who says what, I think it's the message that is important. So many people are used to arguing the people instead of arguments they don't know what to do when an anonymous critic steps up. The founding fathers during the revolution wrote under surnames, does that mean we should not take seriously what they were saying? I love this forum but people shouldnt forget the thing that made it great is unmoderated discussion no matter how brutal that might be.
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« Reply #2354 on: January 12, 2007, 01:07:36 PM »
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What's your point? :D

That there are many registers users that make a point of doing this. :lol:

I suggest that all guests (including myself) stop posting as guests as of right now or kill themselves right now for the sake of dignity. psy is a courageous young chap for logging in every time; we are mere fleeting shadows & proverbial turds in the punchbowl... It's time for a flush.  :rofl:
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