Carlbrook

[Anonymous]

Julie- you sure don't know much about education. And you sure are a mean little bitch.

[Anonymous]

I attended both a TBS and a traditional, single gender, college prep school. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. There were rules at both. Obviously, the TBS rules were tighter where as the prep school rules were more expected. At the same time, they were very similiar.

At the prep-school, we were required to wear uniforms. Was this abuse? We were not allowed to wear what we wanted. Our days were scheduled for us. We were required to attend breakfast EVERY morning. Wednesday nights we had formal dinner with our advisors.We had to attend church or temple atleast once per month. The "child pranks" could easily compare to some of the horror stories told from a TBS. There was even a teacher at this prep-school that was arrested for molesting students.

Did I mention that many of these schools cost more than a 4 year college education at a state school?

Now, why would no one be interested in closing down all of the "TRADITIONAL" boarding schools in this country? Is it because kids are not sent there against their will?? WRONG. I am sure there will be many replies explaining there are no mind games, no emotional abuse, no physical abuse. I would argue that there are mind games.... uniforms, school songs and mottos memorized, strict curfews, traditions that date back a century...

Having been a student at both types of schools, my conclusion is that there are some good schools and some bad schools... .traditional and alternative schools.

[Anonymous]

I was going to bother replying with research and everything, but the long post by the anonymous in the middle of this page royally made my point for me. Thank you, Anonymous. Luke and I are going to go play now.

Which is something that TBSlaves can't do...

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Lookie, The Who successfully idiot-jacked another thread.   :wave:  :lol:

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more and more parents will be looking to place their kids in a safer environment and fornits is becoming part of their search and education.

Yeah, that's right.  Take your kid from a place where these violent, drug-using, mentally ill kids represent a fraction of a percent of the population and put them in a warehouse where nearly every kid is disturbed.  Sure, THAT will make them safer.  How dumb can you be?

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On 2006-04-20 15:47:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-02-01 02:09:00, Carlbrook Graduate wrote:


"Ha.  You don't think I went to Carlbrook?  Ask me anything you wish kind sir.  Integritas, Amicitia, Animus, Teneo, Veneratio?  Who's your hero?  What about your truth?  Or how about your superhero?  No, I know, what's your lie?  What about your nightmare?  How about you go do some bioenergetics?  Go listen to your fucking Mike and the Mechanics, or do you not remember the song it's not easy?  I don't know who you are and I honestly don't care.  I speak from my experiences and I don't speak for anybody but myself.  I say what I saw with my eyes during my incarceration.  Yes, I said incarceration.  What else do you call a place that the staff is able to withhold and monitor all your communications with family and friends?  Where you are monitored by security at night and every window and door has an alarm?  Don't try to discredit me because you can't believe the truth."

This kid seems to have had an awful experience at Carlbrook.  What he describes is a "typical" program, not something "new" and "better."



Look at their staff.  Nearly all of the top dogs are from abusive, shut-down programs. Some were at multiple closed-for-abuse programs.  Some don't tell the truth on their bios and omit the abusive programs they ran.



"Meet our Director, Michael Recycle."  Same names, same game, ain't nothin' changed..."

same abusive staff, same program, new price, new location.  red flags all over the place.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-04-20 15:47:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Meet our Director, Michael Recycle."

 :tup: I like that.

[Deborah]

On 2006-04-23 19:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-04-20 15:47:00, Anonymous wrote:



"Meet our Director, Michael Recycle."

 :tup: I like that."

I liked that one too. Thought it might be fun to keep a list of program terms/sayings advocates have coined over the years. There have been some good ones.

[Anonymous]

there is obviously only one opinion here, and that is these things are bad.

personally, my name is anonymous, and i am glad to meet all of you. you seem like really delightful individuals who are extremely responsible contributors to society and can say it like it is. i mean really, say it like it is. you guys are good at that. i mean, i admit that i am timid and cannot bash people i dont know because ive had some issues with it in the past. i was a transvestite for a few months, and i have been bashed hard. really hard. so i like you guys because you give me hope that maybe one day i can bash as hard as you, and then i will feel worth something. a person, i would feel like. im tired of being a cyborg, i want some action, and i think this forum is the place to be for it. thanks for your time and keep me posted. im sure you will.

[Anonymous]

good try, humor can be elusive to some.

[Anonymous]

so can pedophiles, love

[Anonymous]

way to elevate the conversation, karen.

[Anonymous]

Why are there no new postings - nothing since late April - did the school step in and stop the faculty from telling the truth

[Anonymous]

I think it's more just relentless trolling.  The Carlbrook mom troll derails any possible conversation about the facility.

Still, the most recent posting from an actual graduate is the one below and it pretty much sums up what we've all been saying:  same names, same program, different spin.

On 2006-02-01 02:09:00, Carlbrook Graduate wrote:


"Ha. You don't think I went to Carlbrook? Ask me anything you wish kind sir. Integritas, Amicitia, Animus, Teneo, Veneratio? Who's your hero? What about your truth? Or how about your superhero? No, I know, what's your lie? What about your nightmare? How about you go do some bioenergetics? Go listen to your fucking Mike and the Mechanics, or do you not remember the song it's not easy? I don't know who you are and I honestly don't care. I speak from my experiences and I don't speak for anybody but myself. I say what I saw with my eyes during my incarceration. Yes, I said incarceration. What else do you call a place that the staff is able to withhold and monitor all your communications with family and friends? Where you are monitored by security at night and every window and door has an alarm? Don't try to discredit me because you can't believe the truth."

Nobody has refuted any of the information in this post.

[Anonymous]

Dear Mr. Woodbury,

I know you are probably very busy, but I just wanted to take the time to tell you how thankful I am for the type of work you do- it saved my life. My name is Rxxxxxx and I am from Phoenix, Arizona. Like many other teenagers that you work with, I was not on a good path, confused, and out of control. My parents started seeing Miriam Bodin in Northern California, and I was sent to the Second Nature Wilderness Program in Utah. After working with Dr. Matt Hoig there, I went to the Carlbrook School in Southern Virginia and graduated this past May 2005. As I said earlier, the eighteen months I spent there saved my life. I just want to say that Carlbrook is a very special place to me, and I hope it keeps running for a long time- I read on your website that Cedu closed down, and I hope that that never will happen to Carlbrook. While I was at Carlbrook I got to work with so many awesome adults such as Tim Brace, Jonathan Gurney, Matthew Lovell, Robert Somers, and so many awesome other people. I just wanted to write you a note because when I visited your website, I can see that you care about so many kids, and I respect what you do a lot. Thank you for your time, and thank you for caring about us teenagers so much.

Sincerely,

Rxxxxxxxxx