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« Reply #900 on: April 11, 2006, 04:59:00 PM »
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But, your whole argument about treating him myself is ludicrous...




This statement is loony.  Nobody said "treat him."  They said "work with him" while he went to outpatient treatment.



If he wanted out of your house so bad, why didn't he just get emancipated?  It would be the end of your problem and his.



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You are an asshole.
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« Reply #901 on: April 11, 2006, 05:08:00 PM »
Good comment (the asshole one). What these folks don't understand is that some teens have high ambitions and the parents know that getting them back on track and out of the anger/addiction cycle is the way to help them reach these goals. You don't see the kids from Carlbrook, ASR, Oakley etc bitching all day on the message boards because they are in college or in productive activities. Even the graduates who are NOT successful- and there are plenty- are not sitting around here blaming the school.  
My kid never asked to be emancipated. That wouldn't have served him very well. Our kids are the most important thing in the world to us. The money spent on a program that kept them safe and helped them move past some emotional issues was well worth it.
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« Reply #902 on: April 11, 2006, 06:06:00 PM »
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He is operating from some sort of abstract thinking model where if a few of the staff got degrees from an online program, or if the school hasn't finished the accrediation process, your kid must be being abused or you have wasted all your money.


A bit of hyperbole, no?  

I don't think all programs abuse all kids.  I've never thought that.

I do know that the way these businesses operate is detrimental (in general) to the development of children onto functioning adults.  There is plenty of valid scientific evidence that proves this, but there is none that show this brand of "help" helps.

I still would like to see anyone refute what I say with objectively verifiable data.  When and if my opinion becomes invalidated I'd be left no choice but to find another answer.  It just hasn't happened because many of you respond with red-herrings, strawmen, post-hoc fallacies and ad hominem attacks, yet you offer no real substantive commentary.

At this point, however, I am left with my education, my training and several years of working in residential treatment to bring to bear on this topic.  "Don't believe your eyes.  Believe me," doesn't work on me.
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« Reply #903 on: April 11, 2006, 06:28:00 PM »
Dysfunction,

I, and many others I assume, don't care what you think.  We are here to provide balance for parents searching for information.  Hopefully we'll save a few kids from going to abusive programs. Really, if you think about it rationally, we are on the same side.  We both want the same thing.  Carlbrook is not abusive and it did some of our kids a world of good.
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« Reply #904 on: April 11, 2006, 06:33:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-11 14:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Good comment (the asshole one). What these folks don't understand is that some teens have high ambitions and the parents know that getting them back on track and out of the anger/addiction cycle is the way to help them reach these goals. You don't see the kids from Carlbrook, ASR, Oakley etc bitching all day on the message boards because they are in college or in productive activities. Even the graduates who are NOT successful- and there are plenty- are not sitting around here blaming the school.  

My kid never asked to be emancipated. That wouldn't have served him very well. Our kids are the most important thing in the world to us. The money spent on a program that kept them safe and helped them move past some emotional issues was well worth it."


Well said.  Unless you have parented a teen in one of these situations its hard to understand how it is to have one at risk.  You did the right thing, the proof is in the results.  I havent seen many graduates from ASR, Carlbrook and Oakley on this board either and I have been here, on and off, for a year.  You dont have to take criticism from someone who hasant been in your situation.  They are just poking you with a sharp stick because they hate to hear the success stories.
Hang in there.
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« Reply #905 on: April 11, 2006, 06:38:00 PM »
Thanks, Who.  Parents and kids that have had success at Carlbrook are hearing about this site and hopefully all of us will keep posting our truth.

I'll be quite happy when Carlbrook has been around long enough for someone to put out a proper study to prove what we already know.
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« Reply #906 on: April 11, 2006, 06:45:00 PM »
Number of people you're fooling by responding to your own posts: 0
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« Reply #907 on: April 11, 2006, 07:21:00 PM »
Dear Mr. Woodbury,

I know you are probably very busy, but I just wanted to take the time to tell you how thankful I am for the type of work you do- it saved my life. My name is Rico xxxx and I am from Phoenix, Arizona. Like many other teenagers that you work with, I was not on a good path, confused, and out of control. My parents started seeing Miriam Bodin in Northern California, and I was sent to the Second Nature Wilderness Program in Utah. After working with Dr. Matt Hoag there, I went to the Carlbrook School in Southern Virginia and graduated this past May 2005. As I said earlier, the eighteen months I spent there saved my life. I just want to say that Carlbrook is a very special place to me, and I hope it keeps running for a long time- I read on your website that Cedu closed down, and I hope that that never will happen to Carlbrook. While I was at Carlbrook I got to work with so many awesome adults such as Tim Brace, Jonathan Gurney, Matthew Lovell, Robert Somers, and so many awesome other people. I just wanted to write you a note because when I visited your website, I can see that you care about so many kids, and I respect what you do a lot. Thank you for your time, and thank you for caring about us teenagers so much.

Sincerely,

Rico A. Moreno
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« Reply #908 on: April 11, 2006, 07:56:00 PM »
Karen's been busy today!!! Its funny you say you are done and not coming back, and then return the next day. Same shit every week.... god bless fornits, the greatest source of free entertainment around!!!! You must realize the amount of parents who will read through this thread and understand who is talking to who is close to zero, right????? What page is this thread on now?? LOL Don't kid yourself that you are here to "provide balance to parents", Karen. What is your real motivation for coming here day after day? You could reach a lot more parents by other means, you do know this right? At first I juts thought you were a bitch, then I thought you were a little neurotic, but I now seriously worry about your sanity!!! Yes, Karen, I am worried about you!!! I don't know what we'd do around here without you. Maybe there is an adult program out there for you?? :lol:  :lol:  :lol: You are the Overlordd of fornits.... I read that's why you came over here, after his "invasion" of strugglingtrolls... right? So why have you become what you hate so much?? Irony, aisle seven.... cleanup on aisle seven.

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« Reply #909 on: April 11, 2006, 08:54:00 PM »
Oh look, little Lukie and the other boys have come out to play!
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« Reply #910 on: April 11, 2006, 08:57:00 PM »
Isn't it interesting that when something good is said about Carlbrook we have to return to the Karen thing.  You're not fooling anyone and we're not going away.
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« Reply #911 on: April 11, 2006, 09:04:00 PM »
Since you are an MSW you know what projection is. Do you believe it is possible that when you you said "your son chose Carlbrook" that it could be a projection on your part? If you can tell me, how did you contribute to his acting out? It might be informative as advice to other parents surfing this sight.
What I can tell you is that if your child were doing drugs, you would be the last to know. What is fascinating is how deep the emotional disconnect is between parent and child.
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« Reply #912 on: April 11, 2006, 09:32:00 PM »
I didn't know he was doing drugs.  In fact, his father drug tested him (hair analysis) and called me with the results.  I am certainly not projecting.  I didn't want him to go.  I contributed to his acting out by being passive and permissive.  Sorry, puppy, we always did and always will have a connection.  Please try not to project your own bad relationships onto everybody else.
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« Reply #913 on: April 11, 2006, 09:37:00 PM »
I just reread your post, Puppy.  I'm not sure if you were accusing us (me and my son) of no connection or all teens and parents in general.  If it is the latter I'm sorry I reacted without thinking it through.  

I can tell you this-  until you have a kid like this, you have zero credebility with those of us who have BTDT.
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« Reply #914 on: April 11, 2006, 09:39:00 PM »
One last thing...HE CHOSE CARLBROOK.  I wanted him to go to traditional boarding school.  Please quit making assumptions.  You don't know us.
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