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Offline OKB4RMA

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« Reply #540 on: March 06, 2006, 07:23:00 PM »
Not as an impressive list as I would have expected given the touts of many of the parents...but not unimpressive either.

It seems that the kids that went on to finish high school after Carlbrook did a little better than the ones that were accepted straight out of Carlbrook...i.e. U of P vs Penn St.

That does clear up a few of my academic concerns with Carlbrook vs RMA.

One thing that I certainly don't buy however is the "Scholarship" claim to fame that is listed on Carlbrooks site...I'm not saying it is false...just questionable.

I also find it interesting that there seems to be a higher matriculation rate for the "lesser" universities than for those with better national reputations.

now...If somebody could refer to my questions about the Seminars.  I'm really not looking for a parents answer to this (no offense Karen) as the parents really don't know the "play by play" as I had mentioned before concerning the workshops.  Needless to say...it took me almost 20 years to finally tell my Dad the "play by play" and he was pretty shocked.

I guess that this is a question that Tim's gonna have to come out from behind the curtain and answer...but from what I have been told (in so many words)...he is far too busy to care about his former students and answer their questions.
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« Reply #541 on: March 06, 2006, 10:18:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-06 15:42:00, OKB4RMA wrote:

"In all reality...I think that we'll never get direct answers...even from direct questions...at least that seems to be my experience.



I'm not going to engage anybody in long winded drawn out arguments and when I pose a question...and get a non answer (such as Ted's posting to my last question)...I can already see that trying to reason...or have intelligent discourse without being replied to in a condescending manner is futile.  So...if you don't know the answer (Ted)...don't reply to my question.



Now...on to my next question.



I'm sending this one your way Karen



You state that many kids go back to drugs and that many kids go onto prestigious universities.



1. Could you please back that up with the supporting statistics.



2. Could you provide me with a list of universities (prestigious ones) that have accepted Carlbrook Grads.  I don't want students names as I would like to respect their privacy, but with a list of these institutions of higher education, it would be easy to call the admissions departments of said schools and verify how many...if in fact any...Carlbrook grads are currently attending."
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« Reply #542 on: March 10, 2006, 10:52:00 AM »
What tools did you use to stay sober and do so well? Did you go to boarding school post Carlbrook?  My son is at Carlbrook for cocaine addition and I worry about him using cocaine once again when he comes out.
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« Reply #543 on: March 10, 2006, 11:16:00 AM »
If you sent your kid to Carlbrook for substance abuse issues, you did your kid a great disservice.  

Carlbrook is not equipped or staffed to deal with SA issues.  How do you think a bullshit behavior mod program is going to help with addiction?
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« Reply #544 on: March 10, 2006, 01:55:00 PM »
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"What tools did you use to stay sober and do so well? Did you go to boarding school post Carlbrook?  My son is at Carlbrook for cocaine addition and I worry about him using cocaine once again when he comes out."


You should be, sending a kid to a program for coke addiction will help nothing.
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« Reply #545 on: March 10, 2006, 08:09:00 PM »
It might.
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« Reply #546 on: March 10, 2006, 08:18:00 PM »
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"What tools did you use to stay sober and do so well? Did you go to boarding school post Carlbrook?  My son is at Carlbrook for cocaine addition and I worry about him using cocaine once again when he comes out."




You should be, sending a kid to a program for coke addiction will help nothing."

Carlbrook never promises they won't do it again (whatever IT is.)  They give the kids tools to not be impulsive and reckless in their decision making.  My kid went to Carlbrook and things have been good ever since.  Not perfect but perfectly fine for all three of us
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« Reply #547 on: March 10, 2006, 08:23:00 PM »
Carlbrook has an excellent therapeutic staff, and with some hard work, your kid will understand the underlying issues that led him or her to medicate with drugs.  Drug/alcohol abuse is a symptom of something else, and Carlbrook is pretty good at getting at what that might be.  
I do agree that a lot of the hard-core drug abusers DID go back to using drugs post-Carlbrook, but did have the tools to understand their choices and, hopefully, in the future, change their patterns.
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« Reply #548 on: March 10, 2006, 08:32:00 PM »
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"If you sent your kid to Carlbrook for substance abuse issues, you did your kid a great disservice.  



Carlbrook is not equipped or staffed to deal with SA issues.  How do you think a bullshit behavior mod program is going to help with addiction?"


What do YOU know about Carlbrook.  Ever even been there?
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« Reply #549 on: March 10, 2006, 08:37:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-10 08:16:00, Anonymous wrote:


"If you sent your kid to Carlbrook for substance abuse issues, you did your kid a great disservice.  





Carlbrook is not equipped or staffed to deal with SA issues.  How do you think a bullshit behavior mod program is going to help with addiction?"





What do YOU know about Carlbrook.  Ever even been there?"


And the wheel in the sky keeps on turning...[ This Message was edited by: Nihilanthic on 2006-03-10 17:37 ]
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« Reply #550 on: March 10, 2006, 08:40:00 PM »
So why not send those kids to a setting that WILL help them with drug issues when they get back into their real life?
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« Reply #551 on: March 10, 2006, 08:45:00 PM »
Carlbrook will help them with drug issues.  It is not a 12-step based treatment center. It is an emotional growth school.  If their drug abuse issues stem from emotional problems, which most do, they will benefit from Carlbrook. No, there is no guarantee that the kid will never use drugs again. I suppose you are aware of programs that completely "cure" drug abuse.
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« Reply #552 on: March 10, 2006, 08:49:00 PM »
No, however I am aware of programs that properly address the problem, and don't rely on isolation in order to provide sobriety. It's an illusion that is shattered once the kid leaves.
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« Reply #553 on: March 10, 2006, 08:52:00 PM »
Carlbrook doesn't rely on isolation to provide sobriety. It does rely on a substance-free environment.  Why do you throw that crap out there that you know is false?
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« Reply #554 on: March 10, 2006, 10:58:00 PM »
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"So why not send those kids to a setting that WILL help them with drug issues when they get back into their real life?"

Well, where in the hell would that be?  Some cities (ours included) don't even HAVE an adolescent rehab facility and THOSE places that do exist aren't any better than boot camp.  Carlbrook was the better choice.  Again, our kid BEAT it and Carlbrook helped.  It might not be forever but things are smooth now for all of us and have been for a year.
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