Carlbrook

[Anonymous]

"Tame little child creature."  

Now, THAT is the funniest thing I have read so far on this forum.  You clearly have not paid attention to my posts. You just provided a really good laugh for any of the Carlbrook staff following this thread.
This has gotten old.

[Anonymous]

I believe I told you that the psychologist treating my son recommended wilderness. That would be a "trained mental health professional".
I have no need to justify my choices to you, DJ. The results speak for themselves.
Karen

[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-06 12:40:00, Anonymous wrote:

""Tame little child creature."  

Thank Frank Zappa.....

The more BORING a child is, the more the parents,
when showing off the child, receive adulation for
being GOOD PARENTS -- because they have a TAME
CHILD-CREATURE in their house.

[Troll Control]

This has gotten old

Yes, your evasion and lying do get old fast.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-06 12:40:00, Anonymous wrote:

""Tame little child creature."  



Now, THAT is the funniest thing I have read so far on this forum.  You clearly have not paid attention to my posts.

I've paid very close attention.


 

You just provided a really good laugh for any of the Carlbrook staff following this thread.

Of course they're not child creatures when they come in.  That's what you'd like them turned into and what programs promise.  Try to keep up.

This has gotten old."

Yes it has.

[Troll Control]

I believe I told you that the psychologist treating my son recommended wilderness. That would be a "trained mental health professional".

You had ALREADY SENT HIM, Karen.  These places don't turn down cash in hand.

Also, I said "reputable" mental health professional, not some reject on the payroll of the place to which he is PAID TO REFER.

Recommened BASED ON WHAT?  What was the dx that REQUIRED an RTC?

I have no need to justify my choices to you, DJ.

No, no you don't.  You have the ongoing, continual need to justify yourself to a bunch of strangers on a message board, though.  It's a sickness.

Besides, if you told even an IOTA of truth surrounding your son's "diagnosis" you'd be roundly ridiculed, and rightfully so, due to the fact that you're so full of shit your eyes are brown.


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"Compassion is the basis of morality."

-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2006-03-06 12:50 ]

[Anonymous]

"You didn't even cover the basics like a consultation with a reputable child/family psychologist. If you did, you wouldn't be here."

Wrong again, DJ. We consulted with several. That is what finally led us to make the phone call. The therapist that treated our son in wilderness is one of the best therapists I have ever encountered. He recommended Carlbrook (along with our EC)."


The therapist IN OUR HOME TOWN recommended wilderness. The testing was done AT wilderness by a different therapist.

My kid did not go to a RTC.  He went to Carlbrook.
It is not a RTC.

I am not justifying myself. As I said, the results speak for themselves.  I am just trying to present the correct information for any unsuspecting parents who might wander onto this site.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-06 12:54:00, Anonymous wrote:


My kid did not go to a RTC.  He went to Carlbrook.

Does Carlbrook provide so-called "emotional growth"?

I am not justifying myself.

Yes you are.

I am just trying to present the correct information for any unsuspecting parents who might wander onto this site."

We're trying to present correct information for any unsuspecting parents who might wander onto Carlbrook's site.

[Nihilanthic]

Yanno, I love this shit.

NOBODY here can give a clear cut answer as to what the criteria for needing 'wilderness' or 'RTC' are, what they do, or how they do it, or even how you know it worked, but they all can agree that they trust it to work.

Amazing!

The PROPER MEDICAL criteria of locking someone up is if they would literally die or suffer severe injury if they werent being supervised 24/7 by trained, equipped staff. Programs have poorly trained (if that) underequipped staff - they only thing they can do is do sloppy takedowns and maybe jab some halodol into said kids buttcheek.

Now, Im sure programs/programmies might say that they 'feel' (subjectively, and theyre not experts in anything but manipulating parents and the words of teenagers...) the kid would hurt themself or others without supervision, but not even that shaky arguement works considering 99% of programs have proper medical facilities.

DJ, youre wasting your time. Take a step back, clear your head, and analyze what you and I say vs what they say, and more importantly HOW we say it. We come on with facts, rational thought and they come on with emotions and feelings from the get go. The way we describe things is more factual and thoughtful whereas theyre all about FEELINGS.

I feel it should be obvious what im trying to get at - but its not like this thread was in vain. Anyone who still hasnt drunken the punch, so to speak, whose reading this thread will be able to decide for themselves unless theyre a predisposed program junkie themselves and prefer feelings to facts.

[Troll Control]

The therapist IN OUR HOME TOWN recommended wilderness.

Based on what diagnosis?

The testing was done AT wilderness by a different therapist.

Yeah, you already said this.  After you sent your kid you had an evaluation performed by the guy who worked for the place to which you'd already shipped your child with the escorts.  I got that part of it.

 


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"Compassion is the basis of morality."

-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2006-03-06 14:45 ]

[Nihilanthic]

DJ - fix your quote tags please!

[Troll Control]

DJ, youre wasting your time.

I believe I have extolled you with this very advice previously as well, yet, strangely, here we both are again.

Nice to see you, Niles.

[Nihilanthic]

As I said, this isnt for the programmies, its for those who might read this who are thinking about a program for their kids :razz:

And please, fix your quote tags in your previous post!

[OKB4RMA]

In all reality...I think that we'll never get direct answers...even from direct questions...at least that seems to be my experience.

I'm not going to engage anybody in long winded drawn out arguments and when I pose a question...and get a non answer (such as Ted's posting to my last question)...I can already see that trying to reason...or have intelligent discourse without being replied to in a condescending manner is futile.  So...if you don't know the answer (Ted)...don't reply to my question.

Now...on to my next question.

I'm sending this one your way Karen

You state that many kids go back to drugs and that many kids go onto prestigious universities.

1. Could you please back that up with the supporting statistics.

2. Could you provide me with a list of universities (prestigious ones) that have accepted Carlbrook Grads.  I don't want students names as I would like to respect their privacy, but with a list of these institutions of higher education, it would be easy to call the admissions departments of said schools and verify how many...if in fact any...Carlbrook grads are currently attending.

[Anonymous]

http://www.carlbrook.org/academics/acc.htm

These are acceptances and not just a list of where they are attending.  Each kid usually has more than one acceptance.  Also, I assume this doesn't include kids like my son who got into college out of a post-Carlbrook school.  Of the post-Carlbrook kids who are at other high schools, I personally know of acceptances to Washington U (St. Louis), U of Chicago, U of Pennsylvania, USC (California), RPI, NYU, Indiana, Georgia and Yale.

I also know of at least 8 or so kids who have gone back to drug use and/or have quit college.  These are kids my son has heard from or heard about through former classmates.