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Offline Nihilanthic

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« Reply #90 on: August 27, 2005, 06:55:00 PM »
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According to the A&E video, RedCliff Ascent forces kids to hike by twisting their joints in ways they are not supposed to go in order to cause the victim pain.


http://fornits.com/anonanon/video/RedCliff.ram


If they do not consider this child abuse then I wonder what they would consider abuse.


Its not abuse, its assault. Restraint is not using submission holds, aka newaza from a Judo/Juujutsu school. Shit from marital arts, Pro wrestling, and the UFC belongs in a dojo, in a ring, and on Spike TV, respectively, NOT with children getting 'therapy'!

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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #91 on: August 28, 2005, 12:57:00 AM »
I spent 50 days at RedCiff and to be honest it might have saved my life.  Its a good program and had a positive effect on all the kids I was there with.  I saw that series 'Brat Camp' with the British kids and their expiriance was pretty much identical to mine so if you've seen that show and still think its abuse then you probably have some mental issues yourself that need to be worked out.  Instead of spouting off about all this 'suffering' and 'cruelty' it causes maybe you should look at some of the huge ammout of good it can do.
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« Reply #92 on: August 28, 2005, 03:55:00 PM »
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His "mother" (and each time I am using the term more and more loosely) has PLANS. She has sailing events at the Yacht Club, and other plans with her boyfriend. So he must remain in the desert, humiliated and angry.

Well, if it would so disrupt her social calendar why can't he come and stay with you?   :flame:
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« Reply #93 on: August 28, 2005, 03:57:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-27 21:57:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I spent 50 days at RedCiff and to be honest it might have saved my life.  Its a good program and had a positive effect on all the kids I was there with.  I saw that series 'Brat Camp' with the British kids and their expiriance was pretty much identical to mine so if you've seen that show and still think its abuse then you probably have some mental issues yourself that need to be worked out.  Instead of spouting off about all this 'suffering' and 'cruelty' it causes maybe you should look at some of the huge ammout of good it can do."

And exactly what good can it possibly do to someone whose only problem is a narcissistic mother?
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« Reply #94 on: August 28, 2005, 08:27:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-27 21:57:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I spent 50 days at RedCiff and to be honest it might have saved my life.  Its a good program and had a positive effect on all the kids I was there with.  I saw that series 'Brat Camp' with the British kids and their expiriance was pretty much identical to mine so if you've seen that show and still think its abuse then you probably have some mental issues yourself that need to be worked out.  Instead of spouting off about all this 'suffering' and 'cruelty' it causes maybe you should look at some of the huge ammout of good it can do."


Did they twist your arm and your wrists to get you to hike? Were you strip searched? Just curious. I am glad you got through it in 50 days. The 13-year-old in the video was still there after 83 days! That is a very long time for a 13-year-old to be away from his family. This kid also said they forced hiking by twisting arms and applying pressure to wrists.
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« Reply #95 on: August 28, 2005, 11:48:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-27 21:57:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I spent 50 days at RedCiff and to be honest it might have saved my life.  Its a good program and had a positive effect on all the kids I was there with.  I saw that series 'Brat Camp' with the British kids and their expiriance was pretty much identical to mine so if you've seen that show and still think its abuse then you probably have some mental issues yourself that need to be worked out.  Instead of spouting off about all this 'suffering' and 'cruelty' it causes maybe you should look at some of the huge ammout of good it can do."


I'm glad Redcliff was helpful to you.  May I ask why you were placed at Redcliff?
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« Reply #96 on: August 31, 2005, 08:58:00 AM »
Oops.  Did we just feed a troll?
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« Reply #97 on: September 02, 2005, 11:45:00 AM »
You are morons. I went to Redcliff for 80 days. It was fantastic, the best experience in my life. I was sad to go. At first it wasnt "nice" at all, but then it became fantastic. You get whatever out of the program you choose to get. Why cant we speak to our parents? BECAUSE  WE'RE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE RETARDS!. Geeze, the ignorance coming from you people make me livid. The staff is loving and caring, i stay in touch with many of them and you ARE safe. Parents if your children have problems, send them to RCA. They will become a changed person by the end of it.- Avion Sun 15yrs old
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« Reply #98 on: September 02, 2005, 12:47:00 PM »
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On 2005-09-02 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You are morons. I went to Redcliff for 80 days. It was fantastic, the best experience in my life. I was sad to go. At first it wasnt "nice" at all, but then it became fantastic. You get whatever out of the program you choose to get. Why cant we speak to our parents? BECAUSE  WE'RE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE RETARDS!. Geeze, the ignorance coming from you people make me livid. The staff is loving and caring, i stay in touch with many of them and you ARE safe. Parents if your children have problems, send them to RCA. They will become a changed person by the end of it.- Avion Sun 15yrs old"


Sheesh ... get a grip, Avion.  Better yet, be a teenager not a snake oil salesman for some brat camp.  

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« Reply #99 on: September 02, 2005, 09:01:00 PM »
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On 2005-09-02 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You are morons. I went to Redcliff for 80 days. It was fantastic, the best experience in my life. I was sad to go. At first it wasnt "nice" at all, but then it became fantastic. You get whatever out of the program you choose to get. Why cant we speak to our parents? BECAUSE  WE'RE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE RETARDS!. Geeze, the ignorance coming from you people make me livid. The staff is loving and caring, i stay in touch with many of them and you ARE safe. Parents if your children have problems, send them to RCA. They will become a changed person by the end of it.- Avion Sun 15yrs old"


Yikes. Go back to Redcliff and get some help with  anger management.  I think they forgot to work on that!  Morons?  Retards?  What kind of values did they teach you there????
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« Reply #100 on: September 02, 2005, 09:10:00 PM »
I've heard adults use that term against others on this site who disagree with them as well. Maybe they should take anger management classes also.
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« Reply #101 on: September 03, 2005, 08:12:00 AM »
Your suggestion makes me so mad I want to EXPLODE!!!
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« Reply #102 on: September 03, 2005, 10:14:00 AM »
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On 2005-09-02 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You are morons. I went to Redcliff for 80 days. It was fantastic, the best experience in my life. I was sad to go. At first it wasnt "nice" at all, but then it became fantastic. You get whatever out of the program you choose to get. Why cant we speak to our parents? BECAUSE  WE'RE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE RETARDS!. Geeze, the ignorance coming from you people make me livid. The staff is loving and caring, i stay in touch with many of them and you ARE safe. Parents if your children have problems, send them to RCA. They will become a changed person by the end of it.- Avion Sun 15yrs old"


You say the staff is loving and caring, but the video clearly shows two kids who say they were "....hurt..." and had their wrists and arms "...twisted..." in order to force them  to hike. Did this happen to you? Do you endorse such tactics? Do you think it is okay to treat teenagers this way?

You spent 80 days there. Why so long? At what point do you think the staff/parents should consider the program as taking too long and pull a teen out?
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« Reply #103 on: September 05, 2005, 06:31:00 PM »
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You are morons. I went to Redcliff for 80 days. It was fantastic, the best experience in my life. I was sad to go. At first it wasnt "nice" at all, but then it became fantastic. You get whatever out of the program you choose to get. Why cant we speak to our parents? BECAUSE WE'RE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE RETARDS!. Geeze, the ignorance coming from you people make me livid. The staff is loving and caring, i stay in touch with many of them and you ARE safe. Parents if your children have problems, send them to RCA. They will become a changed person by the end of it.- Avion Sun 15yrs old


::watches quietly as the robot marches slowly across the room::

Its called the U.S. Mail, they deliver everywhere in the U.S

::watches with a smile as the robot's head explodes because he can't adapt to the truth that his parents just did not give a rat's ass.::
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our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

GAH!!!!

Yeah, hes a survivor.

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« Reply #104 on: September 05, 2005, 07:11:00 PM »
And at least the "robot" can spell at a third grade level--which is more than can be said of dumb fuck Overlordd
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