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« on: December 17, 2005, 01:02:00 PM »
This is a continuation of my contribution to Straight, Inc.
Veterans/Hello from the back of group.


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I decided not to take a chance on House of the Rising Sun; too risque for the potentially angry mob. So I picked Amazing Grace.


So I was downstairs at the crack of noon, smoking a cigarette and sipping my coffee, when it occured to me that an outlander would never understand that w/o explanation. And it occured to me that some of ya'll would, some wouldn't.

So here's the rest of that. Why would House of the Rising Sun be offensive to Group or Staff? It is, after all, a mournful, soulful song of regret and condemnation of the entire druggie lifestyle, isn't it? A cautionary tale to the young from an old veteran of the life of a Norlans gambler. Yeah, it is. At least that's how I always heard it. But that doesn't mean this group would hear it the same way. See, I think I probably came by that song, somehow, by way of the Seed. No tellin', really. But I don't think it was in the pop top 100 at any time relavent. And I do remember a much more authentic, enjoyable kind of singing and skits at the Seed. Remember the georgia kids singing about "one ton a maters"? I can easily imagine a Seedling performing HRS at Open Meeting to sincere applause.

But not this crowd, no! It was too risky. See, someone might understand it differently; like maybe a sly attempt to indulge in druggie ties. They might raise their hand then begin to flap, and that would set off a wave of frenetic activity. It would start in the minds and faces of Group. All members would be panic stations trying to figure out what the first sheep might have picked up on. Couldn't allow one's awareness to be outdone, not if you didn't want to get confronted for clicking or not paying attention or some such. Nope. You had to come up with something to say. It was risky business all the way around.

And, if so confronted, couldn't I just explain the meaning of the song? No, that would be intellectualizing and justifying; 3rd and 2nd degree misdemenours, often stacked onto the charged list for more serious offenses (or used as pretext for a fishing expedition)

Nope, too risky. But Amazing Grace was already in the permanent play list. Safe enough and a pretty tune.

I remember from Seed daze certain restrictions on entertainment. First it was no WSHE, the local Rock station. Then, I think, there were certain bands. I would imagine Ozzie was none too highly esteemed by Art. So this, the way it all played out, in Straight was familiar and not unexpected. I knew how to deal. But it was different in intensity. As little girls are made of sugar and spice and everything nice, so Straight was made up of the very same ingredients as the Seed, just in different preportions.

All of the singing, except on the rare occasion when Staff might ask Group for a new song, was stilted. I've heard from Seedlings that some of ya'll had the same sort of anxiety about performing at the Seed. But it wasn't that tense.  

Remember one legged Tom Mc's rendition of It's raining it's pouring? "Jack left the bar without a drink in his haaaaaaaaaand, he was a lonly man...."

Pretty song. I sing it still sometimes.

There were differences, to be sure. But only in a matter of degrees.

A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.
http://smack.accesscard.org/index/misc/atheist/' target='_new'>Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist



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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2005, 01:13:00 PM »
not much of a contribution. And you point is ?
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2005, 02:23:00 PM »
Mary, did you know
that your Baby Boy would one day walk on water?
Mary, did you know
that your Baby Boy would save our sons and daughters?
Did you know
that your Baby Boy has come to make you new?
This Child that you delivered will soon deliver you.

Mary, did you know
that your Baby Boy will give sight to a blind man?
Mary, did you know
that your Baby Boy will calm the storm with His hand?
Did you know
that your Baby Boy has walked where angels trod?
When you kiss your little Baby you kissed the face of God?

Mary did you know.. Ooo Ooo Ooo

The blind will see.
The deaf will hear.
The dead will live again.
The lame will leap.
The dumb will speak
The praises of The Lamb.

Mary, did you know
that your Baby Boy is Lord of all creation?
Mary, did you know
that your Baby Boy will one day rule the nations?
Did you know
that your Baby Boy is heaven's perfect Lamb?
The sleeping Child you're holding is the Great, I Am.
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2005, 02:25:00 PM »
Mary knew that  :question:  ::kiss::
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2005, 04:40:00 PM »
Well! If you haven't got anything nice to say, become a reporter.

Anybody else?

Tough Love: Abuse of a type particularly enjoyable to the abuser, in that it combines the pleasures of sadism with those of self-righteousness. Commonly employed and widely admired in 12-step groups.
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2005, 04:44:00 PM »
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... 3&forum=22

Innocence implies the ability to restrain from the initiation of aggression, and to question those who don't.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2005, 05:10:00 PM »
and your point is  :question:
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2005, 05:18:00 PM »
Evidently, over your head. Now shush and let the grown-ups talk.

We need cops.

We can't live without 'em.

But they need to start working for us....

That's no longer an option.

They've pushed it.

They've gone to far.

They've just gone to far.
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2005, 10:02:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-17 10:02:00, Antigen wrote:

"This is a continuation of my contribution to Straight, Inc.

Veterans/Hello from the back of group.





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 I decided not to take a chance on House of the Rising Sun; too risque for the potentially angry mob. So I picked Amazing Grace.




So I was downstairs at the crack of noon, smoking a cigarette and sipping my coffee, when it occured to me that an outlander would never understand that w/o explanation. And it occured to me that some of ya'll would, some wouldn't.



So here's the rest of that. Why would House of the Rising Sun be offensive to Group or Staff? It is, after all, a mournful, soulful song of regret and condemnation of the entire druggie lifestyle, isn't it? A cautionary tale to the young from an old veteran of the life of a Norlans gambler. Yeah, it is. At least that's how I always heard it. But that doesn't mean this group would hear it the same way. See, I think I probably came by that song, somehow, by way of the Seed. No tellin', really. But I don't think it was in the pop top 100 at any time relavent. And I do remember a much more authentic, enjoyable kind of singing and skits at the Seed. Remember the georgia kids singing about "one ton a maters"? I can easily imagine a Seedling performing HRS at Open Meeting to sincere applause.



But not this crowd, no! It was too risky. See, someone might understand it differently; like maybe a sly attempt to indulge in druggie ties. They might raise their hand then begin to flap, and that would set off a wave of frenetic activity. It would start in the minds and faces of Group. All members would be panic stations trying to figure out what the first sheep might have picked up on. Couldn't allow one's awareness to be outdone, not if you didn't want to get confronted for clicking or not paying attention or some such. Nope. You had to come up with something to say. It was risky business all the way around.



And, if so confronted, couldn't I just explain the meaning of the song? No, that would be intellectualizing and justifying; 3rd and 2nd degree misdemenours, often stacked onto the charged list for more serious offenses (or used as pretext for a fishing expedition)



Nope, too risky. But Amazing Grace was already in the permanent play list. Safe enough and a pretty tune.



I remember from Seed daze certain restrictions on entertainment. First it was no WSHE, the local Rock station. Then, I think, there were certain bands. I would imagine Ozzie was none too highly esteemed by Art. So this, the way it all played out, in Straight was familiar and not unexpected. I knew how to deal. But it was different in intensity. As little girls are made of sugar and spice and everything nice, so Straight was made up of the very same ingredients as the Seed, just in different preportions.



All of the singing, except on the rare occasion when Staff might ask Group for a new song, was stilted. I've heard from Seedlings that some of ya'll had the same sort of anxiety about performing at the Seed. But it wasn't that tense.  



Remember one legged Tom Mc's rendition of It's raining it's pouring? "Jack left the bar without a drink in his haaaaaaaaaand, he was a lonly man...."



Pretty song. I sing it still sometimes.



There were differences, to be sure. But only in a matter of degrees.



A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.

http://smack.accesscard.org/index/misc/atheist/' target='_new'>Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist





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That is one of the first songs that I learned to play in its entirety on my guitar!....thanks for that good memory, Ginger.
regards,
-DP

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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2005, 11:19:00 PM »
What, house of the rising sun?

Fingerpickin?

Base = 1

Each full bar, regardless of chord change

2-1, 3-4-5+6-4-3

The fact is the fact, the program is evil, and every attempt to make
chicken salad out of chicken shit has resulted in a Chicken shit
sandwich, No pickle on the side could ever change that.

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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2005, 11:38:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-17 20:19:00, Antigen wrote:

"What, house of the rising sun?



Fingerpickin?



Base = 1



Each full bar, regardless of chord change



2-1, 3-4-5+6-4-3

The fact is the fact, the program is evil, and every attempt to make
chicken salad out of chicken shit has resulted in a Chicken shit
sandwich, No pickle on the side could ever change that.

http://fornits.com/anonanon/video/bingo.ram' target='_new'>BINGO!


"


Yes the fingerpickin version....but when I learned it I was young and had a hard time doing it all b/c my hands were so small...today I can finger pick like there is no tmw.....I also cannot name off all of the chords I play by ear now.....reading music for me was ruined at an early age(long story).....my ears still work though!...hahahaha. I never play covers now though...I love to write my own music and poetry etc...

warm regards,
-DP

If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for a reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2005, 12:53:00 AM »
Oh, I wish I had not let it lay fallow for so long. I'll have to get a set of strings. Maybe for Christmas.

Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppression of both mind and body will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day
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