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« Reply #1860 on: December 31, 2007, 09:44:59 PM »
if history already kicked your ass, join the club
life is nuts
look at our school system
we take little kids, give them deadlines for work, make them basically work an eight hour day sitting at a desk with a couple hours of take home work, we turn them over to a bunch of random weird old people
half of whom, who the hell knows what strange little "village" prejudices they have going on, and then we abuse the children when they don't make their deadlines!
again we give little children work deadlines then abuse them when they don't make them!
how is that not just nuts! not to mention abusive
humans rock!! again it's the fricken middle ages
 people can be dangerous idiots, perhaps my perception has been influenced by time spent with PV staff.  
so fuck them, be careful and home school
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« Reply #1861 on: December 31, 2007, 09:52:55 PM »
The box is actually pretty interesting.
basic rules, some people will try to steal your wallet and molest you
if they can do both at once, kinda like PV, all the better
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« Reply #1862 on: December 31, 2007, 10:04:40 PM »
I failed art class and PE in sixth grade ok!
art class!!  i'm pretty fricken creative, at 11.
it wasn't for behavior issues it was because I started playing around with my pottery assignment and the thing fell apart so I didn't make the deadline to make a new one.
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« Reply #1863 on: January 01, 2008, 06:42:08 AM »
They even give out grades for 6th Grade PE these days????? I thought it was all dodge ball and shit....
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« Reply #1864 on: January 01, 2008, 01:37:14 PM »
I didn't go to public school, I wanted to go to public school,
but there were black and poor people in the public school
sadly this is completly true, my parents are fun folks
don't judge me by them!
this was the reason I was going to private school when we lived in the U.S., overseas I couldn't go to the public schools.

I didn’t mean to sound as harsh as I did with the above
I honestly think that there is so much good and beauty in the world that people, especially young people, are way too trusting.  
I’ve been through a couple existential crisis as this point and have made some peace with the sadder aspects of life, some of which I had the misfortune to experience
Therefore, I’ve become pretty factual about reality and it doesn’t bother me as much,
like I said I think I’ve been through a grieving process with it and made  some peace

On another note, I started thinking about trauma and grief and their after effects in relation to PV survivors.
A lot of the girls going into PV did not seem to be dealing with chemical depression but instead with the after effects of real trauma and grief.
PV of course is the most horrific excuse for grief and trauma therapy one could imagine short of perhaps an actual POW or prison camp, where they don’t have to make any pretenses at not torturing people.
i.e. they can bury you in the backyard .  
All survivors out of PV are now dealing with the after effects of trauma.  
I started researching grief therapy online and there was a lot of good stuff.  
I came to the conclusion that grief counseling might be better for the kids going into PV then well abusing them horrifically and stressing them out past the point of all sanity.
There was a lot of focus on not traumatizing the trauma patients, oh well too late for that in PV people.  

I also think that a lot of people try to run away from their feelings of grief because the sadness and anger scares them.
 I say this from how I handled the grief from what I had experienced
I think this leads to things like drug use, anorexia and basically just weird avoidance distraction things.  The pain is still really there though so it makes people a bit nutty.
The grief counseling information mentioned what I ended up figuring out with it, basically the grief isn’t going to kill you and you can’t run away from it so its better just to let yourself grieve because then you feel a lot better and it does eventually more or less go away.  

Dealing with grief and trauma is a very real thing and it follows specific normal patterns
I have seen these patterns, actually while they were being abused horrifically, so I’ve really seen them.  
It was nice in the reading to have the therapeutic community make something almost like sense or even scientific observation. wow
A good grief/ trauma counselor, and I would be very careful, might be a good idea out of PV.
I also think anti depressant medications are interesting in relation to those dealing with the after effects of trauma/ abuse/ death of a love one etc.  
I don’t think there are really any distinctions made between chemical depression and the after effects of trauma when prescribing them.
It would seem that if chemical depression was a medical problem, within which the persons body doesn’t regulate chemicals properly, and grief is not a medical problem but something caused by trauma, giving out the same drugs for both things doesn’t really make sense.  
I have taken Zoloft and Paxil and I noticed that they did absolutely nothing for me.  
I didn’t feel any different whatsoever then when I wasn’t on them.
 They did do some slight physical things, i.e. Zoloft made my head a bit buzzy depending on how much I had eaten and what time of day it was, and I think Paxil made me tired but as far as how I felt emotionally they did absolutely nothing.  
And I mean nothing, I felt exactly the same as I had before I had started taking them.  
Of course i had no grief or trauma counseling, my trauma counseling was a horrific brutal prison camp.  After getting out of PV it was almost as callous and abusive.
So anyway I was thinking about how best to deal with the after effects of PV so as survivors could have better lives, which led to researching grief counseling which led to the above.  I guess don’t let nasty people around you tell you that your not going through something and that grieving isn’t normal, this was a big part the trauma/grief therapy reading, out of PV your going to be going through the after effects of trauma.
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« Reply #1865 on: January 01, 2008, 02:07:05 PM »
when i say chemical depression is a medical problem I mean its caused by biological factors as opposed to environmental ones  
chemically depressed people have a physical problem like being anemic or diabetic or something, this is different then someone who is grieving because something traumatic happened to them, or of course you can just beat up on all of them indiscriminately and make them do a lot of hard labor, because that makes so much more therapeutic sense
we can go back to the state schools for the mentally retarded too
and abusing people with cerebral palsy why the hell not
why not just murder them all like the Nazi’s,
it’s fun to kill six million people if you’re a psychopath  

you know it's funny, I did go to public school in the US for about a year and a half, and I really liked it
of course, as for my parents influence, we lived in suburban New York and there was not one African American in my entire grade that I can remember,
 i know there was not one in my class.
in the private school their were a couple black kids but their parents were doctors or something and successful
I always hear teachers talking about things like integration and the lack there of, weird real estate zoning, and white flight to the suburbs in relation to economic and educational opportunities in the recent past.  
I was a kid in the eighties and my parents are baby boomers,  i think the fact that there were no black students in my suburban school not that far away from the city, says a lot.  
The schools around were I live now in the south seem a lot more normal in this sense,
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« Reply #1866 on: January 01, 2008, 03:00:01 PM »
hey threesprings if you are actually in Korea sorry
I hope you had a nice chrtistmas and new years
i just think a lot of the people on here are staff
so it makes me paranoid  
i'm not picking on the army with my pin head comments
there are these weird men in the south around where I live that have no hair and are large and have nothing to do with the military
my cousin is in the military and he is very nice calm and smart
he has been to Iraq twice already
i have known lots of nice army families, living overseas and all
all the heckling makes me angry
peace?
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« Reply #1867 on: January 01, 2008, 05:11:21 PM »
http://fullerton.facebook.com/profile.p ... %2Cvillage

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Employer:    Peninsula Village
Position:    Residential Program Counselor
Description:    hang out with crazys and so much more

OMG!!!!!  PV doesnt take crazys do they? What about the other children?????
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« Reply #1868 on: January 01, 2008, 05:21:38 PM »
i have been on Prozac and Zoloft
never Paxil, sorry
just wanted to clarify in case someone else was on Paxil and they noticed anything interesting or odd about it
they had me on lithium in the Village
it’s a horrible drug, anything that’s is in batteries will kill your liver
Lithium is very bad for your liver and kidneys in the long run, it also makes you pee all the time
this was horrible because staff would be even more evil then usual if you asked to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night.
there was a lot of bed wetting in relation to this, like I said its a great drug
I also didn't notice it doing anything to me by way of mood balancing.
Of course being in the middle of the eighth court of crazy hell might have made it hard to "work with the meds"
it was hard not to feel like crap in PV, you were being abused constantly
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« Reply #1869 on: January 01, 2008, 05:33:55 PM »
honestly i can say there was not one "crazy" person in PV when I was there
they sent crazy people elsewhere
no schizophrenics and such
no one had voices other then their own in their head,
no one was delusional
every one I was in PV with was at least as sane as the average person
we also didn't have any special education people
this is interesting really because you would think that a couple of the kids would have been hyperactive or have had some kind of actual medical problem

the girls I was in with weren't even as odd as a lot of the kids you meet in your average school.  They were just ordinary people.  
I do think one or two of them may have had chemical depression, but they were still pretty ordinary,  some of the stuff they had been through was pretty crazy but i the girls were not.
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« Reply #1870 on: January 01, 2008, 07:03:17 PM »
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« Reply #1871 on: January 01, 2008, 11:05:03 PM »
Quote from: ""free grrr""
hey threesprings if you are actually in Korea sorry
I hope you had a nice chrtistmas and new years
i just think a lot of the people on here are staff
so it makes me paranoid  
i'm not picking on the army with my pin head comments
there are these weird men in the south around where I live that have no hair and are large and have nothing to do with the military
my cousin is in the military and he is very nice calm and smart
he has been to Iraq twice already
i have known lots of nice army families, living overseas and all
all the heckling makes me angry
peace?


Despite my promise to not post on this thread I will accept your offer of peace. Feel free to email me anytime you'd like for any reason at all at aseymour1975@yahoo.com. I likewise extend my own apologies for heckling you regarding the Omicron 5 matter.

Again email me anytime you'd feel up to for any reason. I'm open to answering any of your questions or providing any support that I'm able to do so for you.

Also as I do own and host the torturedkids.com forum I'm personally extending you an offer to come and start a PV thread there as well. You can now post as a guest on that forum. I'll instruct the administrator, not myself, to keep an eye on the thread and to chase off any trolls. Should staff, other dickheads, and morons choose to troll you they'll find themselves shown the door right quickly.
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« Reply #1872 on: January 01, 2008, 11:42:22 PM »
this is all horrible....

i was at PV for 19 months and another program for a year before that, leaving at the age of 14. I've seen so much shit talk about PV and it honestly  all sounds like its coming from the mouth of an angry teenager that doesnt give a crap about anyone else and is still blaming the world for everything. Yes the Village is unbelievably intense but, since it is refered to as "an end of the line" treatment center that would make complete sense, RIGHT?? It's one of the toughtest programs in the country, but have one of the highest recovery rates, so it works if you work it, and I have never once seen one person be "abused" i have seen girls restrained after attempting to run, commit suicide, attack peers or staff, or hurt themselves some other way. I love the Village, and all of the staff even though I hated them at first, but you grow and your prespective changes. And also for those who are curious about PV alot of the posts i have seen on the internet are out of date, so I'd be glad to talk to anyone who isn't already a Village Hater so to say.  

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« Reply #1873 on: January 01, 2008, 11:43:04 PM »
this is all horrible....

i was at PV for 19 months and another program for a year before that, leaving at the age of 14. I've seen so much shit talk about PV and it honestly  all sounds like its coming from the mouth of an angry teenager that doesnt give a crap about anyone else and is still blaming the world for everything. Yes the Village is unbelievably intense but, since it is refered to as "an end of the line" treatment center that would make complete sense, RIGHT?? It's one of the toughtest programs in the country, but have one of the highest recovery rates, so it works if you work it, and I have never once seen one person be "abused" i have seen girls restrained after attempting to run, commit suicide, attack peers or staff, or hurt themselves some other way. I love the Village, and all of the staff even though I hated them at first, but you grow and your prespective changes. And also for those who are curious about PV alot of the posts i have seen on the internet are out of date, so I'd be glad to talk to anyone who isn't already a Village Hater so to say.  

mbrooks255@yahoo.com
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« Reply #1874 on: January 01, 2008, 11:47:33 PM »
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this is all horrible....

i was at PV for 19 months and another program for a year before that, leaving at the age of 14. I've seen so much shit talk about PV and it honestly  all sounds like its coming from the mouth of an angry teenager that doesnt give a crap about anyone else and is still blaming the world for everything. Yes the Village is unbelievably intense but, since it is refered to as "an end of the line" treatment center that would make complete sense, RIGHT?? It's one of the toughtest programs in the country, but have one of the highest recovery rates, so it works if you work it, and I have never once seen one person be "abused" i have seen girls restrained after attempting to run, commit suicide, attack peers or staff, or hurt themselves some other way. I love the Village, and all of the staff even though I hated them at first, but you grow and your prespective changes. And also for those who are curious about PV alot of the posts i have seen on the internet are out of date, so I'd be glad to talk to anyone who isn't already a Village Hater so to say.  

mbrooks255@yahoo.com


The problem I see here with PV is the sheer number of people with concerns regarding PV. It isn't just one "angry" teenager voicing their disgruntled air. These are successful young men and women who've suffered under the cruel lash of Pegler and company and survived.

Most of the posts here regarding PV are up to date, and quite factual. I've even had the opprotunity to interview a survivor of PV from as recent as 2006. Her testimony paints PV as a very cruel and sick organization.

My suggestion to you is to take stock of your experience and re-examine it very carefully. I think you will find that the inconsistencies between acceptable treatement of human beings and what you recieved at PV to be quite visible.
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