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« Reply #1605 on: November 26, 2007, 10:34:09 AM »
Is Peninsula Village squatting on a public park?



Two public cemeteries are also located on "PV's land"

Jones Cemetery here:
http://http://www.clocations.com/cviewmap.aspx?list=county&state=TN&county=Blount&lid=1548160

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Jones Family Cemetery here:
http://http://www.clocations.com/cviewmap.aspx?list=county&state=TN&county=Blount&lid=1548159

I can just imagine the promotion line, "Bring your kids to play in the park, mourn the loss of your ancestors, just ignore the screams of pain in the background."
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« Reply #1606 on: November 26, 2007, 12:21:23 PM »
Quote from: ""act.da""
Is Peninsula Village squatting on a public park?



Two public cemeteries are also located on "PV's land"

Jones Cemetery here:
http://http://www.clocations.com/cviewmap.aspx?list=county&state=TN&county=Blount&lid=1548160

AND

Jones Family Cemetery here:
http://http://www.clocations.com/cviewmap.aspx?list=county&state=TN&county=Blount&lid=1548159

I can just imagine the promotion line, "Bring your kids to play in the park, mourn the loss of your ancestors, just ignore the screams of pain in the background."


The Whitmore was half program, half bed and breakfast.  The guests were told to ignore the kids being hurled down the stairwells, I guess.

You got the map, act.da, so what's your take on it?  It does look like it's on public land.  Difficult to get any information, though.
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« Reply #1607 on: November 26, 2007, 02:03:22 PM »
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The Whitmore was half program, half bed and breakfast.  The guests were told to ignore the kids being hurled down the stairwells, I guess.

You got the map, act.da, so what's your take on it?  It does look like it's on public land.  Difficult to get any information, though.


Well it's hard to say for sure, but from what I have right now it's looking mighty good. Property tax records for Blount County aren't in an online mapping format yet, but there should be an interactive records map online by early 2008. If someone in or near Blount County wanted to, they could physically go to the records office and get paper copies. I'm still working on finding some infomation online at this point though.
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« Reply #1608 on: November 26, 2007, 02:37:12 PM »
Quote from: ""act.da""
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The Whitmore was half program, half bed and breakfast.  The guests were told to ignore the kids being hurled down the stairwells, I guess.

You got the map, act.da, so what's your take on it?  It does look like it's on public land.  Difficult to get any information, though.

Well it's hard to say for sure, but from what I have right now it's looking mighty good. Property tax records for Blount County aren't in an online mapping format yet, but there should be an interactive records map online by early 2008. If someone in or near Blount County wanted to, they could physically go to the records office and get paper copies. I'm still working on finding some infomation online at this point though.


I do have copies of PV's property assessments from Blount Co., they break it down building by building.  PV has a non-profit status and they seem to be tax exempt.  There's been some odd things done under different business names at Peninsula - I keep finding listings for Peninsula Sub One, Peninsula Sub Two....

Blount Co. is under Peninsula's thumb, I encountered a lot of resistance from the hillbilly cops and county government employees.  They don't like people sniffing around the cash cow.
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« Reply #1609 on: November 26, 2007, 02:55:41 PM »
Here's an interesting discussion about two vanishing parks....
http://www.knoxviews.com/node/5018

 On the subject of parks
Submitted by Stick Thrower on Mon, 2007/07/09 - 2:50pm.

On the subject of parks that are hard to find, is there a Jones Bend Blount County Park at the end of Wrights Ferry Rd., as this Google Map suggests?

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No, I don't think so. Funny
Submitted by R. Neal on Mon, 2007/07/09 - 2:54pm.

No, I don't think so.

Funny you should mention it. We went driving around looking for it a few weeks ago and we couldn't find it. I believe it was where Peninsula Hospital is now.

It doesn't show up on the Blount Co. Parks and Recs website any more, and my latest DeLorme Tennessee Gazetteer doesn't show it either.

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« Reply #1610 on: November 26, 2007, 03:16:26 PM »
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There's been some odd things done under different business names at Peninsula - I keep finding listings for Peninsula Sub One, Peninsula Sub Two....


I don't think it's uncommon to list adjacent parcels owned by one person or company, to be listed in that way. I'd still look into it though, you never know for sure with PV.
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« Reply #1611 on: November 26, 2007, 03:17:30 PM »
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Here's an interesting discussion about two vanishing parks....
http://www.knoxviews.com/node/5018

 On the subject of parks
Submitted by Stick Thrower on Mon, 2007/07/09 - 2:50pm.

On the subject of parks that are hard to find, is there a Jones Bend Blount County Park at the end of Wrights Ferry Rd., as this Google Map suggests?

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No, I don't think so. Funny
Submitted by R. Neal on Mon, 2007/07/09 - 2:54pm.

No, I don't think so.

Funny you should mention it. We went driving around looking for it a few weeks ago and we couldn't find it. I believe it was where Peninsula Hospital is now.

It doesn't show up on the Blount Co. Parks and Recs website any more, and my latest DeLorme Tennessee Gazetteer doesn't show it either.

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I'd like to find out exactly when PV moved in on that land and put up the buildings it has there now. I've got a map that shows that area as still being Jones Bend Blount County Park in 1981
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« Reply #1612 on: November 26, 2007, 07:37:00 PM »
Quote from: ""act.da""
Quote from: ""ZenAgent""
Here's an interesting discussion about two vanishing parks....
http://www.knoxviews.com/node/5018

 On the subject of parks
Submitted by Stick Thrower on Mon, 2007/07/09 - 2:50pm.

On the subject of parks that are hard to find, is there a Jones Bend Blount County Park at the end of Wrights Ferry Rd., as this Google Map suggests?

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No, I don't think so. Funny
Submitted by R. Neal on Mon, 2007/07/09 - 2:54pm.

No, I don't think so.

Funny you should mention it. We went driving around looking for it a few weeks ago and we couldn't find it. I believe it was where Peninsula Hospital is now.

It doesn't show up on the Blount Co. Parks and Recs website any more, and my latest DeLorme Tennessee Gazetteer doesn't show it either.

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I'd like to find out exactly when PV moved in on that land and put up the buildings it has there now. I've got a map that shows that area as still being Jones Bend Blount County Park in 1981


I know the Hawk Clan did most of the building, they were the wild boys.
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« Reply #1613 on: November 27, 2007, 10:08:40 PM »
you guys are good with your record searches
at least we have recognized its PMS and not a mental disorder
although being angry about PV is hardly out of proportion!
i could get my doctor to document it as well, it would be funny
it would pretty much prove my point
it's in the feminism books, lots of stuff about post natal depression
mood swing disorder and teenage girls and PMS is a bit suspect
   
I think Bi polar disorder is a good way to keep badly behaved women under wraps as well, its so broad a label now, anyone with any life in them could have it, hell a wet noodle could have it if they have good insurance, they got the depressed down, manic can be anything
we should import it to the fundamentalist muslims
 not wearing her burqa, premarital sex, she must be mad lock her up
i think they do that already probably
did you know Cornelius Vanderbilt had his wife committed when she tried to complain about his sleeping with the governess and some high priced hookers
he had many affairs, after a few months in a 19th century mental institution she was pretty passive, and he go to sleep with many more governessess and hookers
It's a great tool of social control
they also made some mention of it in the Soprano's
it is a good way to get rid of someone
I’m keep that in mind in case I ever start a crime family
scary for me right now though
like terrifying
anyway
i'm just going to stay in my burqa and not scream
my parents are being bad again
it's exam week i think they have to try to sabotage things to prove they are right, i am crazy and worthless
they keep threatening my cats
my dads going on and on about them
they know how to kick you where you are vulnerable
my parents are horrible
you ever want to crash your parents 55,000dollar mercedes into a lake?  not with me in it, I'd rather sell it and get out of here practically
i wouldn't of course, i value my life, just saying
my mother told me the other day her job when i was a teenager was to shop for nice things for the house, like china and carpets and mine was to go to school and get good grades and I failed at my job.
She did very well with hers, we have a lot of china and carpets.
i swear she said that, I drove around laughing bitterly about it all day.
I mentioned we had a foreign lady that lived in a closet on the porch that did all the cooking and cleaning too right?
she had one day off a week and she cost more then helping me with an apartment till I finish school would by far. she lived with us for ten years.
 
have i mentioned how abusive and insane these people are?
My father said he would help me move out at the end of the semester but now he's being evil about it, he's very close with money
he's been beating up on my mom about the grocery bill, yelling alot, really ugly and i think he threw a few things at her like pens and the bill
it's not normal, its really ugly, the level of viciousness is bad
so anyway he's deciding, as always they have all the power and can decide my fate as they please
to a person they put in a prison camp, where I had to ask to go to the bathroom, this is not an easy situation
i want them to just give me enough money to move out and finish school while I work
i think considering, this isn't too much to ask
hell they could drive a damn normal nice car
considering my father is adding up the paper towel and food bill right now
i really don't think its going to happen
i just hate how they say they are going to do stuff then take it away
of course he's telling me all the time right now too why he's talking himself out of it very nastily, which is also horrible
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« Reply #1614 on: November 28, 2007, 12:05:56 AM »
Its a Mercedes S class 430
they bought it new
i was living with an abusive jerk, which they knew, and I was desperate to get away from, which I told them
and they were giving me no money
same as when they kicked me out at 18
and they are buying a brand new mercedes S class
it's so stupid, cars are a crappy investment
I can't figure out how much the stupid car would have cost new
the 2007 and 08 Mercedes S class are really really expensive
cars are a horrible investment aren't they?
 as far as I can tell by looking
you pay a ridiculous amount of money for a status symbol
and it drops in value by 20,000.00 in four years!
that's horrible
if they had put a down payment on a good investment condo
it would have gone up by 20,000.00 in four years
even with the housing market the way it is in my area the condo's went up that much since 2002
There are these really nice two bedroom condo's right next to a greenway
safe and suburban and everything, near all the corporate parks for 87,000.
they just put in new apartments next to them that are going for 150,000 for a one bedroom.
they are a total steal, we could have sold the stupid thing a couple years later or rented it and made 35,000 dollars not lost it,
and I wouldn't have been abused some more, been attacked and terrified in the ghetto or driven all over creation trying to find some place to live safely.  Instead my parents abuse me and then yell at me when the ghetto apartment wants to charge them a thousand dollars to break the lease because I don't want to live there after being mugged.
What the hell do they think happens to little girls living alone in bad neighborhoods.
They cause the damn problems with their violent irrational abusive behavior, it doesn't help with trying to find a good job either if i feel like I'm worthless and horrible, which they very much promote
or if everything here is at some horrible level of abusive crisis.
my father really bitches about every penny, the grocery bill at least twice a week as viciously as he can.
my father made me cut back on classes so I could work more, wouldn't listen to me when I said i make seven dollars an hour and then yells at me because school is taking longer then it should
he also abused me into transfering, which turned my academic hopes into a nice knarly mess
I'm living with them as cheaply as possible and he's yelling about the food I eat
He made life so horrible i had to cut back on classes and work thirty hours a week, he told me to join the army when I tried to talk to him about maybe trying to find a different job and has been really nasty about me trying to go to school full time so I can finish.  
It seems like they are not trying to help me get anywhere like nice loving parents it just seems like they want to keep me crippled so they can abuse me more.
I got into one of the schools I applied to, the one in the city where I live hasn't gotten back to me yet again, but the one I got into is in state but a hour or two away.
My father had the nerve to say it was too far, that if I had any problems what would I do?  what the hell.  
Like New Mexico wasn't too far?  He liked that idea because it cost him so little money, it doesn't cost much to put your pretty young daughter up in a clap board shack, no joke it was an actual ghetto house shack, across from the college a couple thousand miles away.
I think he was sending me off to die, it was really dangerous
or to be molested again as punishment.
these people are scary.
The only reason I wanted to go that far away is because I didn't have any where to live here in NC.  My apartment was infested with my screaming ex boyfriend who's help I needed to pay my rent.  I asked my father about helping me get an apartment here but guess what he bought a new S class mercedes and said no.
It was too expensive here, i had to live with abusive guy.
i haven't had a safe place to live in a really really long time
He keeps talking too about how I keep changing schools, like that's my fault.
He made me change out of the school I was just in because it was private tuition, I was doing well and happy, but one semester of private tuition and he's throwing an abusive fit.   He told me twice last week that I should join the army.  There's an idea, send her off to a muslim war zone, the ghetto was a better one.  I didn't have anywhere to live at the weird little school that would except me half way accross country, but I got really good grades it, too.
The proper way to go about all this would have been,
rather then kick your 18 year old out to marry a 28 year old
after putting her in a prison camp for to years where she didn't do any homework,
is to make sure she has a place to live and isn't forced to live with some weird guy who wants to marry a vulnerable kid.
Again my mother was really pushing for that marriage
and my father would have liked it to, he never would have had to pay for me to live again, pawn her off on someone.
I didn't have any choice in that, my mother kicked me out and called the police and said my father pushed her and she didn't want me in her house, at 18.  
I hadn't done anything, she was giving me the PV party line as I got ready to go to work and was making breakfast and i yelled at her and tried to tell her what PV was really like.
She literally pushed me out the door and started throwing stuff after, my father apparently pushed her out of the way to let me back in?
I don't know, all I knew is one second I was in my house getting ready to go to work, and they next psycho abusive mom is throwing a fit, the cops are interviewing my father the wife beater, and my father was driving me over to this guys house I had been out with a few times.
i didn't have a car so I lost my job and failed the class I was enrolled in at 18 to help me get re-acclimated with the whole school process after two years with no homework and PV abuse.  
This was right out of the damn prison camp.
Is is so much to ask to make sure your very young badly traumatized daughter has a safe place to live.
and they have the nerve to say anything to me about being responsible, they are not responsible, they are abusive, hairbrained and nuts.
They spend at least 50,000.00 on a car and then scream about the grocery bill, how responsible is that.
i could have gone to the community college and transferred with some support, do you know how hard it is to study when you have to share a one bedroom apartment with an alcoholic.  
it would be simply stupid, bad parenting and abusive if they didn't have any money
but they have enough money to buy a new mercedes and have a live in maid, we had the live in maid when I got out of PV, so they pay a thousand dollars a month ++ so my mom doesn't have to do anything but they can't help me with a place to live.  I just want them to give me a small settlement, so I can get an apartment, work and finish school.    
I can do it to of course.  I'm not an 18 year old or even a 21 year old kid.  I'm a very world wise adult woman who has been living between hell, disaster, abuse and crisis for a very long time.  
For a while fallout from all of this really kicked my ass too, i felt pretty crushed under all the just abuse and horror I've seen.  
It's hard for a young person to process well the level of hell and not just get to feeling crushed.  
At 21 I was so shy I couldn't make eye contact with people or talk to them, i had no confidence, i had really bad just emotional wounds, forget scars.  
Now after years of surviving this and getting good grades and even years of working crappy retail jobs, i feel ok.  If i could get out of this house i would feel amazing.
i am an adult, i don't need my parents to guide and teach me any more
which is good because their guidance and teaching basically made my life absolute horror.    Children and young adults need parents to tell them how to navigate life and to keep them safe.  As an adult I know how it works, I might not have any money to make it work but at least I am not so crushed by it?  Or at least I don't need them to be anything other then the abusive horrible people they are.  Oh wait i need them to give me money so I do need them to not be abusive and to let me go, something abusive people never ever want to do.  Damn I am still screwed.
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« Reply #1615 on: November 28, 2007, 11:11:18 AM »
I know alot of what you wrote from my own experiences. Your parents are obviously stessed out and don't want you around, you are to much for them and they don't want the burden of taking care of you for a while now. So nevermind about what parents should do or should not do! It would be nice if we all had good parents for sure but we don't and we are starting out in the world alone and broken before we even begin. I know it's rough but you can take care of yourself! you survived the program and your boyfiends and crazy parents, now get the f*&%$ away from all of them so you can begin to heal. I don't know where you will go or how you will do it but you will have a better chance making it on your own than relying on crazy people to help you. You help yourself, it is your life and you decide now. find your way back to your own voice that guides you, be still and listen and you will know what to do. don't listen to anyone but yourself! shame on them for damaing you but it is now your resposibility to get yourself right, they are of no use to you their help has only hurt you and will continue to hurt you, help yourself. you can do it, it took me alot of years to get it right but at 25 I started making better decisions that set my life on a better course. I went to school full time and worked full time and rode the bus and my bike. I lived in an efficancy by myself. It was finally my own life and I decided what was best for me. I kept to myself and took it easy. I got rid of all the crazies around me and I made my own way
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« Reply #1616 on: November 28, 2007, 12:45:04 PM »
The guy when i was eighteen wasn’t abusive he was actually pretty nice
I probably should have married him, hell I would have had somewhere to live and I could have gotten a car in another year or two, then I would have been able to actually go places, like college
He owned his own landscaping business with his best friend from high school
The friend’s brother and wife lived up in Washington and we would all go up to visit and go to the museums and art galleries and such pretty often
He was a big history buff so we went to all these historic places
I’m a big history buff too so it was great
He was a historic artist, he had sold some paintings and been in magazines
He would paint these huge paintings of battlefields with hundreds of perfectly drawn tiny men and horses fighting and dying sometimes horribly
His family and him would do reenactments of civil war battles
They were always on the side of the north, so it was ok
But his mom and I would wear a hoop skirt,
 I honestly think the guy died in a couple wars in his past life and still wasn’t completely over it, if you think about it, around the time of the civil war, marrying an 18 year old at 28 would have been appropriate.  
I actually really liked him at first, he made me feel safe, and i sort of got pulled into his life which was nice.  He worked all the time and worried a lot about money
I didn’t have a car so I worked at this little shop across the street from our apartment for 6dollars an hour, we moved and I worked at a coffee shop across the street again, still didn’t have a car, for 7 dollars an hour, i was full time at both places too, I might have made 7.50 at the coffee shop, it was under eight
The coffee shop was also a caterer and they were understaffed, so I worked a lot of hours and they had me cater, as the only wait staff, for these big corporate lunches by myself.
The owner of the store and the assistant manager owner would come in and out but the owner had to pick up the food and the assistant owner always seemed to have to go on a state wide hunt for plastic forks, so it was always just me and a hundred lawyers at a convention or something.
It was a weird situation but he wasn’t abusive or anything.
I was just sort of trapped, i ended up feeling like it was the 19th century, only I didn’t have four kids by the end of a year.  
Standing in a hoop skirt with his mother I started to feel pretty surreal
Also he worked all the time and was old and stressed.
 It wasn’t safe it was just a hundred years ago, he would have made an ok boyfriend for me now really, maybe.
At 25 he at 28 would have been just fine, we would have had fun.  
As an adult now i can’t imagine dating an 18 year old much less keeping one as a pet
Which is what I felt like too really, I did all the cleaning as well, didn’t wear a hoop skirt for that though, although a women cleaning in a hoop skirt he probably really would have liked, anyway.
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« Reply #1617 on: November 28, 2007, 01:10:41 PM »
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I know alot of what you wrote from my own experiences. Your parents are obviously stessed out and don't want you around, you are to much for them and they don't want the burden of taking care of you for a while now. So nevermind about what parents should do or should not do! It would be nice if we all had good parents for sure but we don't and we are starting out in the world alone and broken before we even begin. I know it's rough but you can take care of yourself! you survived the program and your boyfiends and crazy parents, now get the f*&%$ away from all of them so you can begin to heal. I don't know where you will go or how you will do it but you will have a better chance making it on your own than relying on crazy people to help you. You help yourself, it is your life and you decide now. find your way back to your own voice that guides you, be still and listen and you will know what to do. don't listen to anyone but yourself! shame on them for damaing you but it is now your resposibility to get yourself right, they are of no use to you their help has only hurt you and will continue to hurt you, help yourself. you can do it, it took me alot of years to get it right but at 25 I started making better decisions that set my life on a better course. I went to school full time and worked full time and rode the bus and my bike. I lived in an efficancy by myself. It was finally my own life and I decided what was best for me. I kept to myself and took it easy. I got rid of all the crazies around me and I made my own way


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« Reply #1618 on: November 28, 2007, 01:38:22 PM »
are you guys missing how the money doesnt add up?
i make 7.50 an hour.
i could go get a job as staff at a program, I have more then enough credentials for it, i would make more money at least
that actually is an interesting idea, i could take pictures and record things hmmmm
my health insurance costs 250 an month ,car insurance a thousand ++ a year, i need 3500, a semester for college
plus books, an apartment around here costs at least 550 a month
+ utilities, gas and groceries
if i get a better job i still won't make enough unless I work full time
and i do want to finish college sometime in the next year or two!
even with working full time making enough is iffy
I could live in a bad neighborhood or I could live with random roommates who respond to a flyer I put up on campus
I have done this before and it didn't work that well
I am not "codependent"  I simply can't afford to live on my own
without some help from my parents
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« Reply #1619 on: November 28, 2007, 02:09:54 PM »
Welcome to the wonderful world of adult life.
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