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« Reply #195 on: April 22, 2007, 12:36:17 PM »
In the village to as I remember it, there were not many real drug problems, most girls had smoked pot maybe, drinking, a handful of more serious stuff, but they were hardly addicts, if they put you on a daily dose of amphetamines you sure will be an addict I suppose.  Again do not take this stuff, please, it is not cool or fun, it is crack.  If they try to put you on it, go print out the drug info to show them of the web site.   Alcohol was a big problem for the girls, not because they drank heavily but because it does not take much to get a teenage girl drunk, and alcohol and trouble go to together far to well.  Date rape, if you are a boy and you drink three or four drinks, because you are stupid and the room starts spinning you go in the back and pass out, for girls this does not work out as well,  AS an older adult that can go to bars, I always like the question “so who is going to drive home.”  DUI's are no joke,   do you know when you go to get a job, your entire police record pops up, even stuff that was dismissed, DUI does not look good.  My friend, and yes he really was a friend, had one cost him thousands of dollars, my parents friend lost his license, talk about huge pain and trouble.   One drunken fight and you have an assault charge.  Alcohol needs to be treated with great care I think.  It’s the number one way guys try to get you in bed, and they don’t care if you can’t move some of them, if anything if you go on the date and the guy is like “here have another, take a shot, smoke some pot,” smoking with drinking makes you more drunk, It is very easier to get drunker than you mean to as a young woman, tolerance is a iffy thing.  I think sometimes it depends on how much you ate that day or something, sometimes two drinks and I’m pretty drunk.   Alcohol, needs to be drunk very carefully!  With awareness of who is around you, in moderation and don’t let yourself get drunk it is dangerous.   PV likes to turn everyone into a drug addict, one way or another really.  Ironically enough.  The depressed fourteen year old who ate ten aspirin is an aspirin addict, give me a break.   Be really careful is all I'm saying and take good care of yourself, because you deserve it and other people won't always, when you find people that do really care about you, buy then pesents and tell them how great they are,
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« Reply #196 on: April 22, 2007, 12:36:53 PM »
Hey, some people don't react well to stimulants. Fine for them. But some of us really like our stimulants and they work for us. Maybe it's a couple 30 or 60 mg Adderall-XR's or maybe it's 3 pots of coffee a day, or caffeine pills during finals week, or share an 8ball with your friends. Whatever works for ya...
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« Reply #197 on: April 22, 2007, 04:47:37 PM »
Quote from: ""we are not free""
 PV likes to turn everyone into a drug addict, one way or another really.  Ironically enough.  The depressed fourteen year old who ate ten aspirin is an aspirin addict, give me a break.  


Absolutely.  You've probably read the story posted here about the young lady without a substance problem. She resisted PV completely, to the point she was restrained almost daily, and kept full of Thorazine, Klonopine and Halperidol.  When she was forced into the AA part of PV's program, she told them she had no addictions.  They said she was addicted to the very tranquilizers they were forcing into her, which she had never been exposed to before PV.

I think the need to establish an "addiction" is to get the patient to work the AA program, which is cult-like, and the 12 steps help to break a patient down.  The first step is, "We admit we are powerless over our lives", and what a great thing for a program with an agenda of breaking down a kid.

I quit drinking over ten years ago.  I tried AA, found it disgusting in most ways.  They use the same program logic: "If you leave here, you're going to end up dead".  I'm one of the few people to be encouraged to leave AA, I think.  When someone referred to a "recovering alcoholic", I asked "When are you finally going to be cured?"  Answer:  Death.  I made my own choice and walked out, and I've never touched alcohol again.  Do you refer to a former smoker as a "smoker"?  Why refer to a former alcoholic as an "alcoholic", even "recovering alcoholic"?  

I'm an alcoholic only if I'm putting alcohol into my system.  We put too many labels on people, why carry another one if you don't have to?
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« Reply #198 on: April 22, 2007, 09:21:30 PM »
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Quote from: ""we are not free""
 PV likes to turn everyone into a drug addict, one way or another really.  Ironically enough.  The depressed fourteen year old who ate ten aspirin is an aspirin addict, give me a break.  

Absolutely.  You've probably read the story posted here about the young lady without a substance problem. She resisted PV completely, to the point she was restrained almost daily, and kept full of Thorazine, Klonopine and Halperidol.  When she was forced into the AA part of PV's program, she told them she had no addictions.  They said she was addicted to the very tranquilizers they were forcing into her, which she had never been exposed to before PV.

I think the need to establish an "addiction" is to get the patient to work the AA program, which is cult-like, and the 12 steps help to break a patient down.  The first step is, "We admit we are powerless over our lives", and what a great thing for a program with an agenda of breaking down a kid.

I quit drinking over ten years ago.  I tried AA, found it disgusting in most ways.  They use the same program logic: "If you leave here, you're going to end up dead".  I'm one of the few people to be encouraged to leave AA, I think.  When someone referred to a "recovering alcoholic", I asked "When are you finally going to be cured?"  Answer:  Death.  I made my own choice and walked out, and I've never touched alcohol again.  Do you refer to a former smoker as a "smoker"?  Why refer to a former alcoholic as an "alcoholic", even "recovering alcoholic"?  

I'm an alcoholic only if I'm putting alcohol into my system.  We put too many labels on people, why carry another one if you don't have to?


Now you have unleashed a f*cking fury.
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« Reply #199 on: April 22, 2007, 10:32:47 PM »
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Now you have unleashed a f*cking fury.


No, Stoo...I won't get into the debate about AA saving lives.  Some people need it, like one guy I knew who needed to attend three meetings a day.  It didn't sit well with me, I found the "powerless" label troublesome, along with the "Higher Power".  

Non-denominational as AA claims to be, there were plenty of reborn Fundamental Christians who had kicked the bottle and found the intoxicating bliss of spreading the word of Jesus, and they could be nasty if rebuked.

I could admit being powerless, but I wanted a solution to that problem. I wanted a normal life, not one filled with coffee-slamming, donut chomping meetings that started with a Serenity prayer and ended with the Lord's Prayer.  All that ritual was anathema to me.

I worked on my own and found what I needed inside, and as time passed I healed, and I regained control and "power".  I guess I self-hypnotized  - I can hang out with drinkers, but it's like watching them drink Arsenic - good for them if they can do it, but it's poison to me.
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« Reply #200 on: April 24, 2007, 02:25:40 AM »
when I said you guys are commies earlier, I was referring to what I had said about China using forced institutionalizations to get rid of annoying people.  I meant PV people were commies, as in those who work at or own PV are like the Chinese communist party because they also do the same thing.  I thought this might be funny because I assumed PV people are pretty conservative and conservatives traditionally don't like commies.  Bad joke. I was not referring to people writing on this post as commies certainly not zen, just thought I would clarify typo.  I just wrote a twenty one page paper on the Iraq war, I think I have post traumatic paper disorder. I really have been rather rude on this site, lot's of anti guy stuff, again this could be the problem with my love life. Hmmm?  sorry. you all are great God Bless, nice Buddha Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jesus God Bless.  Happy children and such, hope things improve for all those suffering.
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« Reply #201 on: April 24, 2007, 09:53:21 AM »
My professional advice is to get laid quickly.
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« Reply #202 on: April 24, 2007, 10:24:29 AM »
Free, have you contacted ISAC corporation or Heal-online? You should give them both an account of your time in PV if only to let others know that they are not alone.
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« Reply #203 on: April 24, 2007, 10:27:06 AM »
Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin""
My professional advice is to get laid quickly.


Is this the advice you give everyone or just those dealing with sexual abuse issues?
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« Reply #204 on: April 24, 2007, 10:38:08 AM »
Nah I normally tell them to get fucked up also.
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« Reply #205 on: April 24, 2007, 10:43:53 AM »
Great, you should package that up and sell it as an alternative to private programs, it sounds promising.
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« Reply #206 on: April 24, 2007, 10:48:41 AM »
Why a program? Do it at school under the bleachers. Worked for me in high school.
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« Reply #207 on: April 24, 2007, 07:04:13 PM »
Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin""
Why a program? Do it at school under the bleachers. Worked for me in high school.


That big black SUV that hauls kids outta their beddie byes in the middle of the night and off to PV would just as happily pull up under the bleachers and grab the kid from there.
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« Reply #208 on: April 24, 2007, 07:24:21 PM »
Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin""
Why a program? Do it at school under the bleachers. Worked for me in high school.


I had a job cleaning under bleachers and it made me puke every time I did it, you really did it down there? Yuck!

In my day we just ditched, and went somewhere a little more, clean.
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« Reply #209 on: April 24, 2007, 10:11:03 PM »
I want to say something about sexual harassment, groan right? well I thought I'd clarify something about it.  I must seem pretty paranoid about it and I don't want it to give any parents reading this the wrong impression.  I am paranoid about it because it can be very bad, especially in school environments.  I'll give an example.  I said a few days ago in college the kids, boys, were saying stuff that was both violent and sexual.  I'm sure this got dismissed because I can be so up in arms about sexism, this is an unfortunate side effect of many negative things, post traumatic stress type stuff.  You are angry and paranoid because something that bad happened, therefore no one believes you because you seem angry and paranoid.  Try telling people about the brainwashing prison camp in the backwoods of Tennessee :roll:
 I wanted to clarify for any parents that read this that don't know what sexual harassment is, or anybody, what I’m talking about.   I have a good immediate example too.  I don't like to repeat it as it sounds horrible but remember I am not the one coming up with this and I find it horrible.  Someone has CSI on in the other room right now, and they are saying far worse things, so I will simply report what I heard with no embarrassment.  
When your daughter says I am being sexually harassed, this is the kind of stuff she means, not “hey your butt looks good ha ha.”  
I was talking to these two boys during break from class, after a test, we were in the smoking area outside.  They had seemed like nice kids, they were both probably nineteen?  They had been polite enough.  At first they were talking about the Virginia Tech shooting, they immediately started talking about what they would have done differently.  They talked about carrying weapons to protect oneself, one guy pulled out a knife and the other guy pulled out two knives, to show they were well protected I guess.  The conversation turned to guns, and concealed carrying permits and who had one and who didn't.  It worried me because I had been feeling safer with this little stun key chain baton that was supposed to incapacitate an attacker, of course though some nutty guy would have a knife and probably a gun darn, I was thinking, duh.  Guns and nuts go together like alcohol and nuts, not everyone that has a gun is a nut but nuts probably do have one.
So then the guys, I saw as kids, the nineteen year olds look like kids to me now, started talking about stuff on the internet, they were talking to me too, we were in a conversation, my side was a lot more sane though, nodding and smiling and such.  Now again I don't want to repeat this, but this is sexual harassment ok, they were both talking to me to, and I felt cornered honestly.
The one guy starts telling a story about this guy having sex with a girl in Las Vegas, he was actually moving his pelvis and holding his hands like he, I guess, was holding on to a girls butt from the back, the story went on a little while too it seemed. This guy in Vegas was having sex and the doors in the hotel were a kind of glass that when you touched a button they became misted over but when you touched it again you could see through them, so he keeps touching the door while he is having sex so people can see through it and then can’t.  The final time he does it a security guard was there and he &^%& all over the glass.  I didn’t like this story much or the pelvic thrusts but I just nodded and smiled.  The other guy starts talking about seeing this thing on the internet where this guy tried to have *&^*&* sex with a girl and filmed it, there was &**& everywhere and the camera guy threw up and so did the guy, this story was much longer than the above sentence and very graphic.  I’m sorry to have to repeat this, even with editing but this is a reasonably ordinary form of sexual harassment. He also mention *&^* sex one other times in relation to his girlfriend, in a conversation, that started by talking about the test we had just taken?  This time was unrelated to the above story?  I have not talked to these kids much, and I look really ordinary, like everyone else in class, they were not singling me out.  I am not picking on men, or boys, I know very nice non before mentioned guys.  
I also know that this is what your daughter means when she says the boys say nasty things at school, or I’m being sexually harassed.
 I go to a good, not that easy to get into, state college.  These boys looked like nice, well dressed kids.  I don’t know what the hell they were thinking really but, this is the kind of stuff I heard in my small private high school pretty much on a daily basis too.  It really is constant. Often it is directed at a girl, not just jokes told around her, do you want to &*^&, we know you like to *&^*, for no reason.  I am always amazed when I hear someone say they must have a reason to sexually harass her and stuff.  This is not the case.
   This is very common and goes on all the time. Ask your daughter to tell you exactly what was said, do not yell at her, or tell her to avoid them, bullies won’t let you avoid them especially sexual ones.  It is hard for girls to report it, because often the abuse gets worse.  Actually listen to your daughter and don’t yell at her when you hear something you don't understand or don't want to hear.  Actually listen, let her finish, I think it is worse than it used to be when most parents went to school.  I think awareness classes and less tolerance needs to be had for sexual harassment in schools.  It's like it doesn't even exist, which means it is rampant.
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