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« Reply #345 on: April 26, 2007, 10:41:12 PM »
I really am not picking on all men  I like a lot of men, nice people and such, I want a revolution but I think a peaceful approach with civil disobedience is the way to get stuff done, I'm not going to be elbowed out by freshmen, at least a few of you can't drink in bars I'm guessing? I'm just going to keep right on talking!
I am posting this again because I think it got lost in all the stupidity.
PV likes to make the teens sound as bad as possible so they seem to deserve the abuse, A few may be dangerous but this does not make what PV does any better, If anything it is one more example of PV's stupidity anmd negligence. PV has beat you down group therapy where other teens give the "feedback" two times a day!." THis is not safe to have teens bullying other teens, they also give the teens axes and such to carry around and then push them past the breaking point, very very dangerous!! Survivng PV is actually a testimony to the sanity of most of the kids, although it certainly doesn't help ones "sanity".
Here is who I was in with! Hardly hardened criminals or Bad Girls! Again I swear everything I say here is true, to the best of my knowledge.
-We had the anorexic pianist, who's mom was an alcoholic.
-We had the anorexic overachiever asian girl, not a stereotype sorry, but she was, I think she had chemical depression, sad for no reason type.
-The state kid with good grades on the basketball team with Jehovah's witness grandma, before mentioned.
-15 year old girl who lived with aunt and cousins had been molesting her since five or so, also no drug use at all. Aunt kicked her out when she told her she had been molested by her sons, nineteen year old neighbor guy took her in, she ran home, aunt turned her over to PV through state. Cousins molesting her for sure.
- Molestation case with pregnancy, that was a cute story, abusive family.
-A party girl someone had told Ruffee's were cool and she woke up naked on a school playground to cops.
Again do we notice a sexual abuse theme? a lot of the girls, it was the main problem.
-thirteen year old, divorce situation, wasn't doing well in school, had written some odd stuff in diary, father seized custody and put her in PV.
-thirteen year old ate some aspirin,
--two state kids who had run away and ran the gauntlet, the "prostitutes" ones story ended with her having the crude kicked out of her and being left in a ditch.
-Girl grandfather had molested, parents put in PV
-The gay occasional pot smoker with Christian parents, don't come out to the Christians!!
-Seventeen year old rich cocaine dealer kind of, in college all ready, an arts school, very very pretty, some old rich guy had gotten her into it, she thought she was cool or something.
-The state kid, didn't do any drugs, fourteen I believe, they restrained ALL the TIME, and left in the straight jacket, had already been there like two years, she was normal just had unfit parents and ran away and she caused a fuss a lot.
- 2 Kids with semi unfit parents who had run away from them and foster care, the one would run home then run back to foster care, so they both reported her as a run away. They caught her in her own room at her parents house.
- Another ran away to boyfriends, in foster care unfit parents, she liked Danzig and was practicing witch craft. Danzig is bad but should not be enough to get you put in a prison camp. That really is most of them I can remember,
-oh chemical depression kid some cutting, dramatic little scratch things, no drugs, drinking anything.
So you see not really criminals, depression is not a crime, nor is being molested, in state care, and so on? The girls I was in with were actually nice girls, I don't harbor any bad feelings toward any of them. God bless them please! I care about them. They were good people even in the face of having PV try to force them to abuse others. If there is a God they are not in the wrong in this situation and they acted well, and honorably.
what are you guys doing? I am on your side?  I want to stop these places?
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« Reply #346 on: April 26, 2007, 10:43:56 PM »
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thank you, i really just want to post stuff about PV. I didn't mean to call you Nihilanthic a moron but you made me angry,  
I like video games?
I was hard on the ninja guy because you have to be careful I think saying anything that could be seen as a threat, especially me because PV might know who I am
plus I am an advocate of peace and happy people and such, maybe you have to fight to get to peace I don't know, sometimes.
But i think writing and other stuff within laws is the most effective way obviously.
I can understand anger for sure
video games are fun.
I'm into wicca and stuff, but I'm a good witch and all, I prefer shinto Buddhist christian but whatever.  I can make a mean seaweed, sulfer zit cream.  Don't know about Baphomet, I know who he is but i don't think you should sacrifice things to him.

Baphomet is some figure in thelemic magick...  and a lot of other stuff like satanism...  not a nice figure.  That was a total joke, as was the gay porn.. the only thing real in that statement was the video games.  I was also into wicca at one point  (one reason my parents were freaked out, besides being bi)...  that's what got me sent to program.  Religion, sexuality, and politics.  Mostly, though, it was sexuality.

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obviously
I like nice things, having dealt with so much ugliness makes you really stay toward not scary nice stuff?  I get all sorts of crap about the religious stuff, people don't get it.
I think people should have happy, fun healthy sex lives, between two consenting people that care about each other or at least both know what the expectations or lack of are.  I don't think people should feel ashamed about sex and I don't think relationships should be abusive.  I think everyone should be completely consenting and no lying to get a girl or guy in bed with you.  You should say up front what you are looking for.
Other than that let the boinking go on in happiness and prosperity
Sexual harassment is unwanted sexual talk and such not normal sex stuff between consenting people, to get it to stick in court you have to tell the person you don't like what they are saying Jesus :roll:


My point is... which you don't seem to get... In this day and age, when everything is kosher to talk about pretty much, how  is somebody supposed to know you're upset unless you tell them.
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« Reply #347 on: April 26, 2007, 10:44:43 PM »
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all right that's it, you all are ridiculous, this is supposed to be about PV,  At least two people on here are probably PV staff, not psych guy.
Zen why did you have to know that exactly?  
why would you be so unpleasant to find that out.  
That is not a very nice tactic
what does any of this have to do with PV?
I posted stuff about how the girls in PV are not juvenile delinquents?
I'm sorry if you all sound young?
Anyone not writing about PV go away.
I am paranoid because PV/ covenant health has a lot of money and connections, and I don't feel like getting arrested for having a tail light out or something ok?  Or beaten up by some random goon ok?  I am scared of PV understandably.  Those people would kick my ass very fast if they  could.  
I am sorry if you disagree about what I considers sexual harassment.
It's not a big deal, and has nothing to do with PV
what the hell was that weed post? you are just bogging down anything good said in stupidity.


I'm sorry, Free.  I'll only answer those questions via private message.  I've edited some posts to get rid of what I thought was too much info anyway.  I've emailed you about this already.  Log in and we'll discuss it, but this is too much of a circus.
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« Reply #348 on: April 26, 2007, 10:46:24 PM »
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Well fuck me black jesus! who woulda thought a PV survivor could be the most effective troll ever on fornits and totally destroy such a long and useful thread?!


black jesus don't do no fuggin, but Stagger Lee he a different story.
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« Reply #349 on: April 26, 2007, 10:49:51 PM »
I want to say something about sexual harassment, groan right? well I thought I'd clarify something about it. I must seem pretty paranoid about it and I don't want it to give any parents reading this the wrong impression.
I am paranoid about it because it can be very bad, especially in school environments. I'll give an example. I said a few days ago in college the kids, boys, were saying stuff that was both violent and sexual. I'm sure this got dismissed because I can be so up in arms about sexism, this is an unfortunate side effect of many negative things, post traumatic stress type stuff.
You are angry and paranoid because something that bad happened, therefore no one believes you because you seem angry and paranoid. Try telling people about the brainwashing prison camp in the backwoods of Tennessee  
I wanted to clarify for any parents that read this that don't know what sexual harassment is, or anybody, what I’m talking about. I have a good immediate example too. I don't like to repeat it as it sounds horrible but remember I am not the one coming up with this and I find it horrible. Someone has CSI on in the other room right now, and they are saying far worse things, so I will simply report what I heard with no embarrassment.
When your daughter says I am being sexually harassed, this is the kind of stuff she means, not “hey your butt looks good ha ha.”
I was talking to these two boys during break from class, after a test, we were in the smoking area outside. They had seemed like nice kids, they were both probably nineteen? They had been polite enough. At first they were talking about the Virginia Tech shooting, they immediately started talking about what they would have done differently. They talked about carrying weapons to protect oneself, one guy pulled out a knife and the other guy pulled out two knives, to show they were well protected I guess. The conversation turned to guns, and concealed carrying permits and who had one and who didn't. It worried me because I had been feeling safer with this little stun key chain baton that was supposed to incapacitate an attacker, of course though some nutty guy would have a knife and probably a gun darn, I was thinking, duh. Guns and nuts go together like alcohol and nuts, not everyone that has a gun is a nut but nuts probably do have one.
So then the guys, I saw as kids, the nineteen year olds look like kids to me now, started talking about stuff on the internet, they were talking to me too, we were in a conversation, my side was a lot more sane though, nodding and smiling and such. Now again I don't want to repeat this, but this is sexual harassment ok, they were both talking to me to, and I felt cornered honestly.
The one guy starts telling a story about this guy having sex with a girl in Las Vegas, he was actually moving his pelvis and holding his hands like he, I guess, was holding on to a girls butt from the back, the story went on a little while too it seemed. This guy in Vegas was having sex and the doors in the hotel were a kind of glass that when you touched a button they became misted over but when you touched it again you could see through them, so he keeps touching the door while he is having sex so people can see through it and then can’t. The final time he does it a security guard was there and he &^%& all over the glass. I didn’t like this story much or the pelvic thrusts but I just nodded and smiled. The other guy starts talking about seeing this thing on the internet where this guy tried to have *&^*&* sex with a girl and filmed it, there was &**& everywhere and the camera guy threw up and so did the guy, this story was much longer than the above sentence and very graphic. I’m sorry to have to repeat this, even with editing but this is a reasonably ordinary form of sexual harassment. He also mention *&^* sex one other times in relation to his girlfriend, in a conversation, that started by talking about the test we had just taken? This time was unrelated to the above story? I have not talked to these kids much, and I look really ordinary, like everyone else in class, they were not singling me out. I am not picking on men, or boys, I know very nice non before mentioned guys.
I also know that this is what your daughter means when she says the boys say nasty things at school, or I’m being sexually harassed.
I go to a good, not that easy to get into, state college. These boys looked like nice, well dressed kids. I don’t know what the hell they were thinking really but, this is the kind of stuff I heard in my small private high school pretty much on a daily basis too. It really is constant. Often it is directed at a girl, not just jokes told around her, do you want to &*^&, we know you like to *&^*, for no reason. I am always amazed when I hear someone say they must have a reason to sexually harass her and stuff. This is not the case.
This is very common and goes on all the time. Ask your daughter to tell you exactly what was said, do not yell at her, or tell her to avoid them, bullies won’t let you avoid them especially sexual ones. It is hard for girls to report it, because often the abuse gets worse. Actually listen to your daughter and don’t yell at her when you hear something you don't understand or don't want to hear. Actually listen, let her finish, I think it is worse than it used to be when most parents went to school. I think awareness classes and less tolerance needs to be had for sexual harassment in schools. It's like it doesn't even exist, which means it is rampant.
This is what I wrote in relation to sexual harassment.  Thinking some parents might be looking up PV, and so I wanted to say something that might help their daughter out Ok?  Also sexism is kind of like racism?  it's an ism and telling racist joke you can't do but a sexist one and I get beat uP?
I was trying to make parents and people see that PV blames the girls for real problems they have. Like having to hear before mentioned stuff at school.  Perhaps a bit randomn bu not much or anything so everyone started beating up on me
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« Reply #350 on: April 26, 2007, 10:49:58 PM »
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I am paranoid because PV/ covenant health has a lot of money and connections, and I don't feel like getting arrested for having a tail light out or something ok?  Or beaten up by some random goon ok?  I am scared of PV understandably.  Those people would kick my ass very fast if they  could.

You might be right.  So train in self defense.  But Zen is most definatlely NOT PV staff.  K.  I realize it's pointless to say "you gotta trust somebody, sometime" becuase i've been there. (still there really), but the practical aspect of this is: you gotta work together if you're gonna take out the program.

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I am sorry if you disagree about what I considers sexual harassment.
It's not a big deal, and has nothing to do with PV
what the hell was that weed post? you are just bogging down anything good said in stupidity.


Hmm.. You didn't catch the many C words used in that post did you?  Nobody still has any idea what that is...

so pick a number

1. cunt
2. clit
3. cock
4. cum
5. other
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« Reply #351 on: April 26, 2007, 10:52:10 PM »
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« Reply #352 on: April 26, 2007, 11:01:58 PM »
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I want to say something about sexual harassment, groan right? well I thought I'd clarify something about it. I must seem pretty paranoid about it and I don't want it to give any parents reading this the wrong impression.
I am paranoid about it because it can be very bad, especially in school environments. I'll give an example. I said a few days ago in college the kids, boys, were saying stuff that was both violent and sexual. I'm sure this got dismissed because I can be so up in arms about sexism, this is an unfortunate side effect of many negative things, post traumatic stress type stuff.
You are angry and paranoid because something that bad happened, therefore no one believes you because you seem angry and paranoid. Try telling people about the brainwashing prison camp in the backwoods of Tennessee  
I wanted to clarify for any parents that read this that don't know what sexual harassment is, or anybody, what I’m talking about. I have a good immediate example too. I don't like to repeat it as it sounds horrible but remember I am not the one coming up with this and I find it horrible. Someone has CSI on in the other room right now, and they are saying far worse things, so I will simply report what I heard with no embarrassment.
When your daughter says I am being sexually harassed, this is the kind of stuff she means, not “hey your butt looks good ha ha.”
I was talking to these two boys during break from class, after a test, we were in the smoking area outside. They had seemed like nice kids, they were both probably nineteen? They had been polite enough. At first they were talking about the Virginia Tech shooting, they immediately started talking about what they would have done differently. They talked about carrying weapons to protect oneself, one guy pulled out a knife and the other guy pulled out two knives, to show they were well protected I guess. The conversation turned to guns, and concealed carrying permits and who had one and who didn't. It worried me because I had been feeling safer with this little stun key chain baton that was supposed to incapacitate an attacker, of course though some nutty guy would have a knife and probably a gun darn, I was thinking, duh. Guns and nuts go together like alcohol and nuts, not everyone that has a gun is a nut but nuts probably do have one.

Shit.  I'm armed all the time, and even my dad was talking about what he would have done in the VA tech situation.  It's not that uncommon.

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So then the guys, I saw as kids, the nineteen year olds look like kids to me now, started talking about stuff on the internet, they were talking to me too, we were in a conversation, my side was a lot more sane though, nodding and smiling and such. Now again I don't want to repeat this, but this is sexual harassment ok, they were both talking to me to, and I felt cornered honestly.
The one guy starts telling a story about this guy having sex with a girl in Las Vegas, he was actually moving his pelvis and holding his hands like he, I guess, was holding on to a girls butt from the back, the story went on a little while too it seemed. This guy in Vegas was having sex and the doors in the hotel were a kind of glass that when you touched a button they became misted over but when you touched it again you could see through them, so he keeps touching the door while he is having sex so people can see through it and then can’t. The final time he does it a security guard was there and he &^%& all over the glass. I didn’t like this story much or the pelvic thrusts but I just nodded and smiled. The other guy starts talking about seeing this thing on the internet where this guy tried to have *&^*&* sex with a girl and filmed it, there was &**& everywhere and the camera guy threw up and so did the guy, this story was much longer than the above sentence and very graphic. I’m sorry to have to repeat this, even with editing but this is a reasonably ordinary form of sexual harassment. He also mention *&^* sex one other times in relation to his girlfriend, in a conversation, that started by talking about the test we had just taken? This time was unrelated to the above story? I have not talked to these kids much, and I look really ordinary, like everyone else in class, they were not singling me out. I am not picking on men, or boys, I know very nice non before mentioned guys.

That is NOT sexual harassment.  Again.  If I was a nasty PV Lawyer, I'd simply let you hang yourself with examples of "harassment" like that.

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I also know that this is what your daughter means when she says the boys say nasty things at school, or I’m being sexually harassed.
I go to a good, not that easy to get into, state college. These boys looked like nice, well dressed kids. I don’t know what the hell they were thinking really but, this is the kind of stuff I heard in my small private high school pretty much on a daily basis too. It really is constant. Often it is directed at a girl, not just jokes told around her, do you want to &*^&, we know you like to *&^*, for no reason. I am always amazed when I hear someone say they must have a reason to sexually harass her and stuff. This is not the case.

Well that sounds like that is bordering on harassment, but what is the relationship between the people...  are they close?  do they know each-other.  Did they hook up at a party sometime, or were they mutually flirting...  Is it ever directed at you?

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This is very common and goes on all the time. Ask your daughter to tell you exactly what was said, do not yell at her, or tell her to avoid them, bullies won’t let you avoid them especially sexual ones. It is hard for girls to report it, because often the abuse gets worse. Actually listen to your daughter and don’t yell at her when you hear something you don't understand or don't want to hear. Actually listen, let her finish, I think it is worse than it used to be when most parents went to school. I think awareness classes and less tolerance needs to be had for sexual harassment in schools. It's like it doesn't even exist, which means it is rampant.

K...  I politely disagree.  It's already too far.

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This is what I wrote in relation to sexual harassment.  Thinking some parents might be looking up PV, and so I wanted to say something that might help their daughter out Ok?  Also sexism is kind of like racism?  it's an ism and telling racist joke you can't do but a sexist one and I get beat uP?


I see you giving examples of stories about sex... but they are not sexist.  Now if I was to tell a joke with a punchline revolving around a womens place in the kitchen... well that would be sexist.  In any case.  It's speech.  It may offend you, but you can always walk away.  It is my constitutional right, if I want, to tell racist jokes, to be a neo-nazi, to wear a swastika.  etc etc...  why should it be off limits to tell a sexist joke?  Are you trying to force people to be polite.  It's crazy.
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« Reply #353 on: April 27, 2007, 12:09:57 AM »
what is your issue with trying to tell parents not to blame their daughters for everything.  That when they say they are being sexually harassed they probably are?  That they should listen to them and not beat up on them or send them off to a place like PV?  
It had nothing to do with you, it wasn't about you. That was my point .  
I was trying to help PV girls.
What is your issue with this?  You are probably not a sexually harassing guy? None of your defending all men as not sexually harassing helps people in PV at all? Or your right to say all sorts of stuff? That is irelevant here and not the place for it?
Some men are sexually harassing, many are not?  I tend to view sexual harassment as agressive sexual attention, that is somewhat violent? It should be repeated for you to report it, this is true?
The point of this is to post stuff about PV, not what you think is or isn't ok or whatever.
This thread doesn't have anything to do with you really? unless you want to say stuff about how bad programs are.  
this thread pops up when you type in Peninsula village on search engines?
that is what I am trying to do with this stuff, I'm not talking to you? ok
sexual harassment is real?  
My example was just a quick immediate one, bad enough for parents to look at and go "huh I guess there is something wrong here" again I was trying to show people that girls in PV live in the context of their lives, that they have other things they are dealing with?  PV takes a lot of girls who's parents or the state think they need "help" with being abused, maybe they have some Taliban issues I don't know?  Maybe they just really believe the girl needs therapy for it and believe PV's lies.  Some of the girls had become somewhat self destructive in the face or it, pills eaten and such?  I just wanted to maybe get parents on their daughters side, rather than dismissing what they say.
 It was true and happened last week so I'd thought I'd use it as an example?
It wasn't a debate class issue, sexual harassment is real and common. this may or may not have been a good example, from your perspective but I thought it suited the aside I was trying to do, saying many girls in PV were the victims of abuse and such, not criminals.

and again there is a difference between cornering some kid and sexually harassing them and telling a joke.
the situation at school, could be a toss up in the retelling I suppose, but I felt threatened and cornered and what they were saying was over the top and pretty violent agressive, unwanted and sexual, the knives  were a bit much too, most sexual harassment is repeated.

As a woman you have to worry about sexual assault.  I have been assaulted and flashed in the last year? through no fault of my own.  guys do not have to worry about this, they walk around the state park in the afternoon without having to worry about being assaulted, as I girl I was just badly flashed at the state park. and then people asked me what I was doing there alone? So I felt bad about myself in relation to it?
I think you have problems with this issue on your own side, I don't know what they did to you but I'm sure it was bad? we need to be careful to not only just speak from what ever we having going on? I do that obviously?
When I said a million years ago here, that the blogs were misogynistic I was not talking about Fornits
I was talking about, I was angry too, my parents had been a lot that day, and I was talking about how girls in PV always get cast as BAD Girls or Ho's and they are not, I will post the girls I was in with again because it is relevant.  I had not gone to any of the other fornits sites at that point. and I was upset at the stigma and stereotypes I feel keep places like PV up and running?  I was probably reading from my own mind into a lot of this?  I had also read the baseball bat guys story out of context and upside down, I already apologized for this?  Issues of aggressive and unwanted, often violent male attention, again how I define sexual harassment and other stuff, and it should be repeated to report ok, are a big problem that the very young teenage girls have in PV.  I am very defensive about it sorry.  And yes you should tell them to go away sixteen times but they won't and threaten you and your family and browbeat you and anyway.  So yes it should be repeated, and it should be over time and such. Although iguess that's a definition of stalking of harassment, rape and flashing happen all of a sudden often, and so of we go again.  Again it was a quick point, ok example, with a purpose, thank you for killing it.  The idea was in the right place.
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« Reply #354 on: April 27, 2007, 12:17:50 AM »
you really are not getting this, can I use again the example of a white guy telling a black one what racism is like? I am not using racism it is just an apt comparison?
didn't any one ever corner you as a kid and say sexual stuff to you?  guess not, come on you were in a program right?
you can;t tell really sexually explicit jokes around people if they don't want you to at work or school.  There are laws for a reason.
Wasn't there a movie with Michel Pfieffer in a coal mine or something.  You really are not getting this?
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« Reply #355 on: April 27, 2007, 12:31:41 AM »
We're Not Free, I'm sorry your parents are sadistic, neglectful assholes. I know how that can be. They should have listened to you and given you some guidance. When I was a little kid, I got picked on and bullied a lot. Never told an adult. It was usually best not to or they might pay some attention. In my house, that was not usually a good thing. But when I started getting into trouble for fighting, my dad started taking me out target shooting and teaching me how to load bullets and make home made weapons. This sounds crazy, I know, but bear with me. There are damned good reasons why they called him Crazy Mac. In all that time we spent together w/ the dogs and sometimes a friend or two of his or mine, he told a lot of damned stories! Around that time, it seems to me they were storries about times he'd fought and times he'd talked his way out of a fight, friends who fought and then made up.. His philosophy was something like this, know that you can kill just about anything that presents a threat. Once you're over that mortal fear, you can think more clearly about whether you'd really want to and ways to avoid it. After awhile, I wasn't afraid of the bullies anymore and I just heckled them back.

Whether you got that from your family or not, it's still the same. That's what you have to learn to do for yourself. I understand being scared of these fuckers. But I honestly don't think they have any significant support in your area.Wouldn't put it past em for a minute, but they lack practical ability, don't they?

Now, one of those stories you describe sounds a whole lot like something a friend of mine sent to me. I told him I'd had a bad day and to send me something funny. He sent me that. It wasn't all that funny.... well, a little, owing to the author's writing style but I'm guessing that got lost in the translation. But that's what my friend thought was funny. Sometimes, it's the thought that counts.

And no one can say from this side of the keyboard what these kids intent is. I guess you're fairly obvious, if not outright vocal, about your views. Maybe they're heckling you because of it? I don't know. If so, the best response is probably to just call them morons and walk off.
 
That's some really good advice Psy gave you. Take a self defense course or martial arts or something.
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« Reply #356 on: April 27, 2007, 12:33:11 AM »
I also did not mean teens who are reported for sexual harassment should be beaten up or something. I do think schools need to teach about sexual harassment, no kid should have to hear the Cu word everyday.
 I don't think schools now do at all and kids get caught up in the crowd and repeat stuff they see in the media.
I know in high school at fourteen or so, I heard "do you want to suck my bleep", at least three times a week, directed at me or another girl. At fourteen I hadn't kissed a guy really yet, I was a geek.
There is also something of a difference, reacting to having someone touch your sock and reacting to being backed up against a wall, while a guy makes pelvis thrusts in your direction, talks about ejaculation while the other guy talks about a(*&(* sex? This is the true example I gave, of what I would consider sexual harassment?  that everyone got all up in arem about?That doesn't belong in schools or work, mainly because you have to be in those places. I didn't say anything at the time because I felt threatened, also it is so common, saying something would do nothing except have people respond as you' all did.
I like what you said about rage then wimpy though, rage them wimpy, I agree this is relevant to PST from programs.

In the PV program, I felt more sexually harassed than I felt like I was taught to think it was bad and report it? They make you feel like you deserve it. PV loves to beat you up in relation to sex, reminded me of lunch table conversations, "I know you would like too, I know you want to, Your just a little (*&(*& aren't you" This is to a thirteen year old virgin, of course. It was a small private school, middle school and high school was in the same buildings and eight graders ate lunch with high school kids, not a good system. PV never said anything against sexual harassment that I remember. This would be admitting that maybe some of the girls in there, who had suffered sexual abuse, actually had been victimized. They were far more proponents of the "you deserved it school" and the "well what were you doing there" school. Protestations like, "I had to go to school" were ignored with loud stupid party slogans, and more sexual harassment from staff, They wanted you to go into details about your molestation and such. They like to make you describe being abused and then beat you up with it?

I posted this and you guys got all mad, how could this be more relevant to PV?   THe sexual harassment was really bad in my high school, and it was directed at me, what the hell do you think "do you want to suck my (&&*" said to a thirteen year old is by a seventeen year old is. A funny joke?  We were not friends? it was not a joke it was a direct question really?  Give me a break?  
Zen what the hell were you trying to find out by being an ass?
It's true if were not for women like me ranting you would have never found out what PV was like in the first place.
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« Reply #357 on: April 27, 2007, 12:44:41 AM »
ok please stop using the C word you idiot, it was the first one on the list? jesus? what are you doing would someone like a moderator say something? Psych go to hell you stupid little idiot,  leave me alone ok.  What does PV have to do with you anyway?   I give up you all are really ignorant about this stuff.  stop abusing other people?
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« Reply #358 on: April 27, 2007, 01:02:57 AM »











Oh, hell, those fucking C-Words!  :rofl:
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« Reply #359 on: April 27, 2007, 01:06:03 AM »
Here is who I was in with! Hardly hardened criminals or Bad Girls! Again I swear everything I say here is true, to the best of my knowledge.
-We had the anorexic pianist, who's mom was an alcoholic.
-We had the anorexic overachiever asian girl, not a stereotype sorry, but she was, I think she had chemical depression, sad for no reason type.
-The state kid with good grades on the basketball team with Jehovah's witness grandma, before mentioned.
-15 year old girl who lived with aunt and cousins had been molesting her since five or so, also no drug use at all. Aunt kicked her out when she told her she had been molested by her sons, nineteen year old neighbor guy took her in, she ran home, aunt turned her over to PV through state. Cousins molesting her for sure.
- Molestation case with pregnancy, that was a cute story, abusive family.
-A party girl someone had told Ruffee's were cool and she woke up naked on a school playground to cops.
Again do we notice a sexual abuse theme? a lot of the girls, it was the main problem.
-thirteen year old, divorce situation, wasn't doing well in school, had written some odd stuff in diary, father seized custody and put her in PV.
-thirteen year old ate some aspirin,
--two state kids who had run away and ran the gauntlet, the "prostitutes" ones story ended with her having the crude kicked out of her and being left in a ditch.
-Girl grandfather had molested, parents put in PV
-The gay occasional pot smoker with Christian parents, don't come out to the Christians!!
-Seventeen year old rich cocaine dealer kind of, in college all ready, an arts school, very very pretty, some old rich guy had gotten her into it, she thought she was cool or something.
-The state kid, didn't do any drugs, fourteen I believe, they restrained ALL the TIME, and left in the straight jacket, had already been there like two years, she was normal just had unfit parents and ran away and she caused a fuss a lot.
- 2 Kids with semi unfit parents who had run away from them and foster care, the one would run home then run back to foster care, so they both reported her as a run away. They caught her in her own room at her parents house.
- Another ran away to boyfriends, in foster care unfit parents, she liked Danzig and was practicing witch craft. Danzig is bad but should not be enough to get you put in a prison camp. That really is most of them I can remember,
-oh chemical depression kid some cutting, dramatic little scratch things, no drugs, drinking anything.
So you see not really criminals, depression is not a crime, nor is being molested, in state care, and so on? The girls I was in with were actually nice girls, I don't harbor any bad feelings toward any of them. God bless them please! I care about them. They were good people even in the face of having PV try to force them to abuse others. If there is a God they are not in the wrong in this situation and they acted well, and honorably.
No wonder the girls I was in with don't post stuff , at least we are anonomous I hope? They probably are afraid of reactions like these.
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